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EJ-Kisz
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Okay, here's the pics of my two bridges.  My Palatino looks like your's where my Stainer is much broader and flat.  

If anything, you may not have to buy another bridge, just have your current one adjusted/thinned.  That is, if it's needed!  A luthier would be able to tell ya that best.  I know some other guys on the forum know a lot about bridge thickness and optimal sound.  Maybe we can get them to chime in! :D

 

(Stainer on Top, Palatino on bottom)

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Whats the black circular looking thing on the strings behind the bridge on the Palatino?

 

Also, whats the main difference between the bridges? You say one is flatter...but they both look distinctly curved to me. How do I learn to tell the difference in the shapes?

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@ celticveil, that is a tourte mute, to kinda silence the sound.

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Thats kinda cool...I may have to look into a mute since I'm in confined quarters here, and not all of the floor's resident's approve of my instrumentation choice...at least not since I can't actually play yet lol.

 

Are mute's safe for the strings are do they wear them out faster?

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A mute slip's on the bridge, some are made of rubber like the one in the photo, some are made of metal or hard wood. There are different type's for different application's, the mute you see in the photo is more of a mute that would be used in an orchestra setting, if it's called for, it is made of rubber and fit's on the bridge. When not in use, you can slide the mute back to the tailpiece or remove it completely with just a twist. They are totally harmless to the string's.

Check out the Fiddlershop for different types of mute's.

 

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Judging by the explanation video, it looks like I may likely need to get the metal mute to decrease as much sound as possible. My wife gets headaches which cause a lot of problems for her and make her ultra sensitive to sound and light. So I'm trying to be conscientious of that.

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Fiddlestix beat me to it! LOL  Yeah, I use the tourte mute on my Palatino due to the violin still being a little bit "young."  Newer violins tend to be "bright" in sound until they're played in for a while.  I simply slip that particular mute on to get that warmer sound.  

I do have 2 other mutes that I'll use once in a while.  I have the heavier type of rubber one that covers the entire bridge and a metal on that fits to the bridge.  They're okay for now.  The heavier rubber one has a tendency to give me some weird tones now and then.  

My Tourte mute doesn't damp the volume too much, just slightly.  But that's all I need right now!  

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I installed fine tuners the other day on all my strings. Hopefully this will speed the tuning process up.

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Excellent!  Fine tuners are great to have with steel strings!  .......and almost required for steel core strings! LOL 

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I have no idea what core these things have aside from being externally metal. Which is an incentive to replace them. The shop owner wasn't able to tell me either, he specializes in guitars mostly.

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Well, at least we know that the E string is steel core! LOL  ....hence the need for the fine tuner!

@celticveil 

When I purchased my a Palatino, It came with Perlon Core strings.  They were okay  sounding, but would not hold tuning for very long....even after several weeks of break in time.  

I tried another set and had the same problem, although, it may have been the brand I was purchasing at the time.  

After that, I came to the forum and started asking questions about string types and everyone kept referring me to either the Zyex's or Dominant's by D'Addario.  I decided to try the Zyex's as the synthetic core really intrigued me!  Since then, they have been my main strings!  

I also heard that some violins sound better with different strings.  So don't be afraid to experiment.  I think that's part of the fun when learning!  

With my Zyex's and my Palatino, I really don't use the fine tuners on the G, D & A strings.  Occasionally, I'll have to use them to tweak my tuning, but it's not much!  I honestly think that's because my pegs and peg box have broken in very well!  

That comes with time and practice with tuning, though!

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I got a set of dominant 135 violin strings today. Waiting on my original strings to need replacing before I put them on though, no sense in wasting decent strings just yet. I also got a collapsible music stand to help me out.

 

The music section in ipark mall, seoul, had a wide selection of violins. There were some shops that were obviously targeting the entry and children market, but a couple had some very fine pieces with prices form 150 bucks to over 6K. I was quite impressed by all the violins and the friendliness of the shopkeepers.

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celticveil said
Hi Fiddlerman! Yep, Eric is definitely giving useful info! At my current entry-level stage I'm trying to soak up as much info as I can.

 

I attached a pic of my bridge. Pardon the low quality, as I don't have a specific macro lens setup so I had to make due with less than optimal setup. I mostly take pics of outdoor things so this up-close-and-personal look isn't familiar to me.

 

What does my bridge tell you by it's angle? Should I purchase a new, better one? If so that will be at least 6 months out due to me returning home then. It's difficult to get things customized here due to the language barrier.

Your bridge looks OK. It's not enough to purchase a new bridge, you need to fit it properly. I'm sure that the bridge which is on there could be made better. I can't see the thickness from that angle but it might be on the thick side. Better luthiers trim the Heart Wing and Kidney Wings and some even make the Kidney larger. They trim other parts as well but it can be excessive at times. All in all it looks fine though and I wouldn't worry about it.

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I figured there was more to setting a bridge in place than just dropping it in. Thanks for the info and picture, I didn't know the individual spaces and tabs has specific names and (by the looks of it) functions, I thought it was all about aesthetics aside form a piece of thin wood to carry the vibrations into the body. But that makes sense that the tabs and holes would serve a purpose when I think about it.

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EJ-Kisz said

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Hi, Celticveil! I always admire when a military person puts his hands on violin. It's great!

Welcome to the forum!

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Pssst.....Naska, are you aware that you're only 6 posts away from taking the lead from Oliver in "top posters?"

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Hahahaha! How do You notice all this?! Now i'm aware, thanks =))))) i'll try to keep quiet fish

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Too late Naska. You are at the top of the list :-)
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