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Took the plunge and bought a fiddle
I asked a while back about a mandolin player trying fiddle. Found a deal on one.
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December 26, 2024 - 10:11 am
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A while back I asked about trying fiddle as I play mandolin put was having right-hand issues from picking.  I wanted to get back to the bluegrass jam scene and ended up getting a square-neck resonator guitar. I've really taken to it and it's gotten md back to jams which is great.  I also have a lap steel and I'm making slide guitar my "first" instrument.

But I still have fiddle in the back of my head and also, I don't want to overdo the finger picking either so the idea of switching off with fiddle is still with me.  So I kept looking for a deal on a fiddle.

Goodwill has an auction site where they well donations.  It's a lot like ebay was 25 years ago when it will still mostly deals on used stuff instead of offshore vendors listing the same cheap items 50 times over and over.  I monitored it for several weeks and since I'd have no idea how good something obscure would be, I looked for a good deal on known name student quality instrument.

I ended up buying a Strobel ML-85 year 2022 for $150 plus $30 shipping.  I was a bit nervous about getting an instrument shipped the coldest week of the year.  But it came very well packed wish slack strings.  I kept it inside for a week before I opened the box.  Fortunately, even slacked, the tone post stayed in place.  A couple days later I  tune it;  No broken strings.  It looks virtually new and came with a case, rosin, and Glasser fiberglass bow.  I don't know how to play it but I tried bowing a G major scale and it certainly sounds better than I do. ;-)

I know Music&Arts way over prices their stuff.  This outfit lists for $895 new.  From what I understand, their business model is to list a $500 outfit for $900 and then rent it to a student for $30/month so they think they are getting a good deal.  Then after a year, the student buys it thinking the credit they already spent for rental makes it worth buying.  I searched for this outfit used and prices seemed to be between $350 and $450.  So, less than $200 delivered for something that's playable and doesn't sound bad; I think I got a good deal.  

If I take to playing it, I'll probably upgrade to a carbon bow and replace the strings.  For now, It's practice guitar for 20 minutes and practice fiddle for 20 minutes.

Wish me look an any tips on resources for learning appreciated.

 

-Ken

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December 26, 2024 - 10:12 am
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This is the site where I bought it -- https://shopgoodwill.com/home

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Congrats on the new fiddle!  The Fiddlerman Carbon fiber bow is a good bow for the price.  I have the Fiddlerman Hybrid and really am liking it.   Fiddlerman strings are very affordable and would probably work for you.   Enjoy your violin journey!

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I bought string builder book 1 by samuel applebaum, he has a series of books starting with book 1, they are excellent. 

For practicing, scales, scales scales. One of the hardest things on violin is playing in tune, apart from everything else, once you cqn hear how bad you sound you are on the way to improving;) dont get discouraged. When you play scales check the note you are playing against other strings. Dont try to play anything up the neck till you can play all the notes in first position. The Applebaum books explain everything, then its a matter of developing the ears.

Try to hold the bow very lightly, dont press hard with left hand, and look at the fiddlerman videos on here as well as videos on bow hold, posture, intonation and any teaching videos on you tube. Hope thats of some help, violin is very satisfying to play and soon becomes an addiction. 

Record yourself playing as often as you can, this is extremely important, as what you hear under the ear, isnt what the fiddle sounds like to others.

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@l2t -

Congratulations! 

I think you'll have a lot of fun on your new Fiddle adventure! 

Don't think you'll have any trouble navigating the fingerboard, but you'll want to concentrate on a good relaxed bow grip & the mechanics of the bow arm (elbow). 

I would definitely recommend ordering a Fiddlerman CF Bow - you can't get a better bow to start with for that price... AND they are on sale right now!

GREAT Fiddlerman Tutorials (top of page ) & there are several great threads on bowing here on the forum - YT tutorials as well.  

Here's some links to helpful threads here:

Bow Grip Thread 

Tension in The Hand Thread  

Tricks for Getting the Very Best Sound Out of Your G String Thread  

Some Tips on String Crossings Thread 

 
...also, consider preparing your fingers & joints:  
 
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Welcome and congratulations! I hope you enjoy your journey!

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Patience, persistence -- and above all -- keep it fun and interesting. 

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l2t

Grats on the fiddle have fun with it.

Mark

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