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Just asking. Isn't number 5 included in 3 and 4? If so you only need to complete 3 things before getting that new viola.
I just realized that 4 and 5 can be part of 3 if you get LouAnn to play with you, than you be a group. Now yopu only have 2 things to complete. See how close you are now to that new viola. If number 2 is in the books in number 1 than you only have to complete 1 thing. I would go for number 2 than you can have the new viola before Christmas.



Barry & Kevin,,, I could listen to you two for days, lmao!!!!!! Much better than Abbott and Costello!
Barry, I think that's an incredible idea. I think I'll do that too. As I think of it,,, my problem is that I don't really have any specific landmark goals; I'll have to give that some thought.
Hey, here's my first 2013 goal -
- jam with a group of friends on 1/16/13!!! Okay, there's a start

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1) Purchase a violin to replace my "VSO"
2) Improve my vibrato
3) Shift more than just 2nd and third position
4) Join an orchestra (preferably a FULL orchestra)
5) Become more involved in Fiddlerman forums and be a core member.
6) Start a few group projects on the forum myself near the middle/end of the year.






Hmm..
1.) to play somewhat less crappy than I did in 2012.
That's all I'm looking for right now, progress. It will be more realistic to seriously consider goals and what I might do with the instrument when I can play it well enough to maybe actually do something with it.
When I ordered my first violin, I expected to sound pretty rough for at least the first year, maybe longer. So far, I haven't been disappointed in that estimate. LOL
Been having fun working at it, though.
"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman



Barry, I should have thought to mention this when I first read your post above; I have a great Snow SA200 viola (sells everywhere for $1380), in perfect condition, sounds wonderful, that I will give you a deal on too good to pass up. If you're interested let me know soon; my teacher may have a buyer for it at $400 more than I'd sell it to you for. It's a 16", and it doesn't smell, lol.


Goals of 2013... I have so much to work on, so I will be sitting here all day if I gonna name them all.
1) Improve speed and intonation, thats the main thing right now.
2) Learn transcribing
3) Learn playing Purachina by Maaya Sakamoto flawless.
4) Soften my bow chances.
5) Train my ear a little more then now.
6) Get my music room done.
Maybe not the right order, but in someway.
'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.

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Thank you so much for starting this excellent thread. I hope we can find this thread a year from now, look back and see how we all did. Accountability always seems to help me move along.
my goal = play blues and jazz improv like the boss…. no huge rush, just by the time I retire in New Orleans…
supporting 2013 training plan:
1) bowing - get air * land the bow* pull big sound * stop the bow * bowing patterns on scales * smooth out sting crossings on double stops * slow down and pay attention
2) intonation - equal temperament… sing it, love it * 10mns a day, all keys
3) style - jeremy cohen blues etudes… style 'em all by this time 2013 * just do it
4) repertoire - polish that nagging 10% with mistakes in it to make them perfect - add a few more reels on low strings
5.1) ear training - finish cranitch and burke by ear * use musical formulas and patterns to aid ear/memorization * goal: 2 passes gets whole tune
5.2) sight reading - stay in practice with 15mns day on new stuff couple times a week * test it
6.1) improv - by ear, name that chord by letter * then find it on fretboard * then find it faster * then stick it in realtime (2014)
6.2) improv - listen to the masters: stanley turrentine=structure, grant green=stylistic dissonance, wynton & louie=style
WISHING US ALL GOOD LUCK IN 2013!
Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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Fiddlerman said
Write a method book.....
If you write a method book titled something like: Violin Techniques for Complete Idiots with Short Attention Spans, I volunteer to test out your material. If you can help me learn it - then seriously, ANYBODY can get it! .
Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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2013 Goals for me usually end up in the trash alongside new years resolutions. Then I spend the rest of the year in therapy dealing with guilt and shame. lol.
I want to be able to play bluegrass, complete with doublestops, and sound like a real player not some hack karaoke version. (I already participate in a weekly jam, can vamp basic chords, can follow guitar chord progressions, can reliably be on the off beat)
I want to be able to play in my churches orchestra, bow same direction, be in tune, make those 32nd note runs etc....(Ive already taken steps in this direction)
Complete Book 2 of Suzuki, Oconnor and Wicklund
Get more beginner (never touched it before) students and to continue to learn and help others. (sounds cheesy like end world peace or provide world hunger!)
I have committed myself to follow a course of improvement driven by kreutzer, flesch and the other educated pedagogues that the pros all claim to have suffered through.
"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.

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DanielB said
That's all I'm looking for right now, progress. It will be more realistic to seriously consider goals and what I might do with the instrument when I can play it well enough to maybe actually do something with it.
Indeed! My goal for year 1 was Don't Quit. I got so disgusted - desperate, I tracked down Eileen Ivers after a show (this is all her fault), and she autographed the playbill to me "Dear Tamar, Keep Fiddling, Eileen Ivers" with a smiley face on it. So may days I felt humbled... sitting alone, tired and woebegone... looking at that little smiley face
Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker






I have been kind of surprised that I am still having as much fun as I do with violin this far into my first year. Just something about the instrument that makes it rival guitar on "fun factor" for me.
There have been some days where it has been frustrating, but then I can just push through the bare basics of practice, chuckle and say "Bah, humbug." and put away the violin and play on some other instrument, and that is good for morale. LOL
For the most part, though, the past several months have been some of the most fun I have had with music in years.
I haven't had a focus on learning anything in particular so far. I figured my first year should just be getting acquainted with the instrument. Just getting used to handling and playing it, familiar with the sounds it can make and the feel of playing it. Learning a bit about how the instrument is put together so I can understand and maintain it. I also have done a good bit of just immersing myself in listening to a lot of violin/fiddle music, to get some understanding of the feel and the styles.
I figure that after the first year, I'll have some idea of what I want to learn and what skills I need to develop more. So all I have really worked on so far are things basic for any sort of music, like intonation, scales, timing, and playing fairly simple melodies and sometimes arpeggios. What I would call a "primitive" or "natural" approach to learning an instrument.
I'm not 15 yrs old and desperate to get into a band as soon as possible anymore, and I'm not trying to develop it into a symphony career or anything similarly "serious". I've gotten far enough along that I can usually enjoy my playing, so I'm taking my time and having fun being a beginner. LOL
Since I don't know where I am going with it, I haven't ever set much in the way of goals yet. Just been enjoying the ride and seeing where it goes.
I do think that in the coming year, it may be time to maybe try a lesson book or try a lesson from someone here and there as I get more of an idea what I'm trying to do and what I'd eventually like to sound like. Maybe try some different types of strings, bows and etc to see if I can get a sound I like better, now that I have at least some idea of the sounds possible with the instrument. Might even see if I can find a jam now and then to session in on.
Since Pf mentioned New Year's Resolutions, I will say that I only ever made one that I actually have kept. One year I resolved to quit making New Years' Resolutions. So far, that one has worked out pretty well for me. ROFL
I've kept that one for over 20 yrs now. Just sayin'..
"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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My main goals for the coming year are as follow:
1) Don't give up!
2) Participate on the FM projects.
3) Evolve a good bow motion with long, straight bow strokes and flexible wrist action.
I'd also like to do a one-song concert with my sisters on piano and recorder – a song we all know, we just need to practice it together.
Also, I went to a modern art exhibition/music performance a few weeks ago and talked to the cool violinist in the ensemble. They're a large, loosely-knit orchestra with players on all kinds of instruments (and I do mean that, some of them I didn't even know the names of!) and from all kinds of levels and backgrounds. The guy said if I played for a few more months, I could join them, so that'd be fantastic!
Barry's goal number 4 is on my list too, as well as learning to switch positions, but one thing at a time, right? There are always the 2014 goals to consider!
~ Once you've ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be true. ~

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Barry said
Almandin said
Barry said
well Alma, I think you knocked out #1 by thinking of 2014
Hehe, yeah. But just thinking about it won't make it happen! (Even though planning ahead can be a big step in the right direction.)
"Endurance is one of the most difficult disciplines, but it is to the one who endures that the final victory comes." ~Buddha
That would make a great post footer message. Pity you and I both have good ones already!
~ Once you've ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be true. ~
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