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Bill said
@Georganne - that looks like the "result" of the poll - like after you've voted - and I notice that the "15 to 45 minutes" result is highlighted - the highlighted option would reflect the choice you had made....Odd - try reloading this page and see how it comes up and if it's still the same, maybe bring it to admin's attention. This was a poll I was unaware of, and I voted on it just a few mins ago, and it worked fine here.
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Hahhaha ok thanks. I probably voted on it when I should have been asleep!
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Lao Tzu said "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
(Ok, so he didn't actually say miles. The unit of measure he knew was li, and there's about 3 li to one of our miles..So 300 and some miles. Whatever.)
But what about all the steps between that first step, and the last one? They are where the work actually is, and all the experiences that make the trip worthwhile. Whether it is a thousand miles or 300 and some, it's going to take quite a few steps. We know that. They are what make it actually a journey.
With music, I like to think of practice as those steps. Every day we have an opportunity to take another step. Whether we do or not is up to us. Whether we take just a little step (a short practice) or a great big one (a long practice) is up to us.
Whether we eventually make the goals we originally set out for, or find ones that work better for us along the way and change course a bit, that is up to us. How fast we progress, it is up to us. Sure, there are other factors, plus or minus. But many of those will not be within our control.
The main controllable parameter we have is our practice.
I try to think of that every time I pick up an instrument. It does not discourage. But it reminds me to make the most of what time I can commit to learning and working at getting good.
"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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I have practiced everyday since I first picked up the violin. Sometimes for only 10-15 minutes, but at least I have held, fingered notes and bowed the violin!!
It is easier to concentrate and maintain correct posture, bow hold and tone when practice is only 15 minutes long. Some short practice says I do go back to the violin for another 10-15 minutes.
When I know I only have 10-15 minutes I run through the songs I have memorized. Having songs memorized really helps when there is a time constraint.
Will committing to February jinx my everyday for the rest of my life goal?
Violinist start date - May 2013
Fiddler start date - May 2014
FIDDLE- Gift from a dear friend. A 1930-40 german copy, of a french copy of a Stradivarius. BOW - $50 carbon fiber. Strings - Dominants with E Pirastro Gold string.

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I tend to be finicky about what I count as "actual practice". I allow myself to skip "actual practice" up to 2 days a month.
But I can't think of a time since I started on violin a couple years ago when I haven't at least picked it up and played a few songs every day.
I do not always play on both electric and acoustic every day, though. Electric, though, I don't think I have actually missed a day that I can recall. It's not that hard, keep it out and near where you sit most of the time, lug it around the house when you're going to be in different rooms fora while, and just pick it up and do a quick run through some tune or other for fun whenever you feel like it. I also often play a bit while pacing and thinking when the house is quiet.
"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

Here's a pretty good article my phone found for me during the drive home. Thanks Cortana!

LizaA said
3-4 hours. It requires a special lack of talent to pratice as much as I do and get so little done. I'm pretty sure I am playing worse than I used to.
.... LOLOL LizaA - it's called a "plateau" - stuck at a point with apparently no hope of progress ? You perhaps think it's "worse" because you're either trying new things, or even (sub-consciously) "bringing more of yourself" into what you do - I experienced that..... But, suddenly, it all falls into place ! We sometimes push-ourselves-too-hard - this journey is NOT "easy" - it takes time and dedication - don't give up !
Me - well, I've probably replied to the thread before - I like to get an absolute minimum of one hour, and preferably 2 hours "playing" per day. If I ever, for whatever reason, miss a day playing........ well, I am FAR from being a happy-bunny! I NEED my daily fix !
I do not really separate "playing" from "practice" - because - however good (or otherwise) I have a certain piece or a certain technique, or certain scales, or modes, or etudes ( which, to be honest, I don't do much of - well - on occasion but only to better my sight reading ) there is ALWAYS room for improvement, and to make a piece "your own" and unique to you.... there is no one "single way" to play a piece - it is ALWAYS unique to the player.... which makes music what it is really.... trust me - stick at it - you'll be fine !
Awesome journey though !
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh -
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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BillyG said
I do not really separate "playing" from "practice" - because - however good (or otherwise) I have a certain piece or a certain technique, or certain scales, or modes, or etudes ( which, to be honest, I don't do much of - well - on occasion but only to better my sight reading ) there is ALWAYS room for improvement, and to make a piece "your own" and unique to you.... there is no one "single way" to play a piece - it is ALWAYS unique to the player.... which makes music what it is really.... trust me - stick at it - you'll be fine !
Ah yes, same here! I do read things that say you shouldn't confuse playing with practice, but I feel that when you are beginning especially, they are one and the same. You're playing a piece but working on bowing, be it keeping your arm correct, your hand relaxed, slurring, intonation, etc etc.
10 months of my first year was learning fiddle tunes with new to me techniques, which isn't too much different than the idea behind an etude (which would have bored me to tears if I had started out playing them instead of learning songs like I did), you're just playing a tune you might be familiar with.
That said, after the 10-ish months of doing this, my teacher and I made the switch to focusing on etudes (which considering how boring I find scales, I actually enjoy the exercise of playing them, though I tend to get bored with most after a couple days, depending on the difficulty) and shifting... While I started out learning shifting within a song, I do find it working better to practice all the boring exercises on their own without worrying about putting it into a tune.
Ah, there's cold making me ramble, lol. I'll stop now.
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I get so so much motivation from the forum.
I like to practice an hour a day. I haven't been getting that it. Mostly more like 20 minutes some days and two 20 minute sets... It really isn't enough.
I am going to hang out here more. I don't have a teacher and I need progress and I need to push myself.
My teaching has been so unconventional...and all over the place. I have bad habits and barely any vibrato... and shifting... hummmm.
I think i need to pull out FM's Swan lake and try some techniques and shift and videos to help me.
Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

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I rarely play more than an hour, and I have not done a 2 hour practice session yet.
I usually range from about 45 minutes to an hour most week days. Sometimes less than 45 minutes, sometimes just a bit more than an hour.
I live in an apartment so I try to be considerate to my neighbors. Especially since I am still very much a beginner (again). I have improved quite a bit in a short time, but my playing can still be very rough at times. Also, repeating the same tune over and over and over again, trying to perfect it, well, I am sure anyone having to listen to that would rather me not play more than 45 minutes to an hour a day.
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