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So I am taking bluegrass lessons from this "old coot" type gentleman who is actually really nice and talented. He is definately got an old school mentality. One of the tips he offered right away was that if I wanted a good tone was to press really hard on the string when fingering the notes. Harder the better. I had learned from Brian Wicklunds books that he prefers to press and relax. That is press hard to set the note then relax the hand and so on.. It happens really quick and I understand the need for a relaxed hand. So whats the deal? Are you like I was....afraid I might hurt the note (im 6'5 and 280 lbs so I could if I wanted to) or are you like I am now...playing louder, more confident and smashing the heck out of the string? Oh, and now I am getting callouses like I did when I attempted guitar, between smashing the strings and sliding the notes. Having a ball. I think my sound is better, there isnt any more hazy sound as the note activates as soon as I smash it. string changes are better too. So is this in my head or really something I should continue?
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I do notice when I play Piano that I dont press or bow as hard, but to get that sound, move fast and bowing, aggressive (maybe not accurate) seems to work better for all aspects. I have noticed that I can ease into it (non percussive) and also for the bluegrass get that smack sound, two different aggressive approaches I guess.
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I don't wish to disagree with your teacher, Picklefish, and I'm only going to give you my own opinion on this.
From experience of playing, and teaching others, this is what I've found.
The word "you", from now on, means "one", or "anyone", btw
There's one single degree of finger pressure on the string, just enough to hold it firmly against the fingerboard, that is required to produce a clean note (assuming you are bowing the string properly). Any more pressure is just wasted energy and can tire you out prematurely.
There's also a little bit of unseen stuff going on here too - sometimes.
Often, when you deliberately press harder on the string, you unconsiously press harder (or move faster) with the bow, and it's really this which makes the difference in sound. By way of experiment, just watch the wood - hair gap on the bow, as you deliberately press down harder on the string with your finger. Sometimes you can see the gap decreasing, so you know you are using more bow weight.
It doesn't happen with everyone, one's mileage may vary, but it's worth checking out
Mr Jim

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There's one single degree of finger pressure on the string, just enough to hold it firmly against the fingerboard, that is required to produce a clean note (assuming you are bowing the string properly). Any more pressure is just wasted energy and can tire you out prematurely.
Mr Jim
I totally agree with you, Mr Jim,,,,,, + too much pressure take's away from the lightning speed that can be attained with one's finger's.
Also, too much pressure add's considerably to callus build-up.

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Thanks for sharing the tip!!! I need to find me an old coot to share his secrets.
Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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picklefish said
I think my sound is better, there isnt any more hazy sound as the note activates as soon as I smash it. string changes are better too. So is this in my head or really something I should continue?
Perspective from another "old geezer"...
http://www.violinmasterclass.c.....nd-lifting
Hope you're smashin' out some super sweet, clean runs these days.
Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker
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