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There is also a style of violin playing in India where the player sits on the floor and the scroll rests on the ankle. Somebody please help me with the name of that style.
It's generally refererred to as the Carnatic style of playing.
I'm having some violin lessons from Karthick Iyer, who plays in that style musically, but he uses a standard 'western' hold. He's a genius 
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When my daughter "swipes" my electric violin to tinker on it a bit, she usually plays it upright, but sitting on top of her left thigh, almost like some erhu players hold that instrument. When she does that, she holds the bow sort of cradled with the right hand holding it underhanded. I've also noticed that she turns the instrument a bit when switching from string to string, rather than changing the angle of the bow as much.
I found it kind of interesting, since I noticed she was using vibrato almost immediately, holding it like that.
But that might be yet another option you could try, billyh.
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I am going to try to play it like a cello. Looking at the video picklefish sent, that guy did not reverse his strings. So I will leave yhe violin alone and learn to play it the way it is.
DanielB, The way your daughter plays is most likely how I will play.
Thanks for all the encouragement.
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I just read your post billyh,
I was going to post the same video to you that picklefish did, LOL.
He beat me to it.
I don't think you are wasting your time. You need to simply find your way to play. Apply a combination of rules between the cello and violin to get your own technique to work for you.
Good luck, and I look forward to following your progress.
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You remind me of Jay Leno for some reason Mr. Jim! 
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That video Picklefish sent and FM talked about is one of many. The fiddler, Truman Price, lives "near" me. My daughter plays in the sunday morning jams they have the first sunday of each month.
He is amazing. I have never met a happier for sincere person in my life. Once he starts to play, the happiness in his body will explode outward if he doesn't start to bounce and jig. I watched him listen to a piece being played (for the first time) then replicate it on his first go through.
He still does fiddle calls, fairs, weddings and other events. An awesome player with an even better outlook on life. More people should take note to his attitude and use him as a role model, not only for music, but for life in general.
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Fiddlerman said
I don't condemn using a shoulder-rest though I don't use one myself.
As Jim says in his video, you must close the gap.Some people don't have much of a neck to speak of and others have real long necks. This is a reason for having or not having a shoulder-rest.
Also, you can fill the gap by raising the chin-rest or purchasing a chin-rest with a taller plate. This will bring your violin closer to your body instead of closer to your head, which will in turn will bring the violin closer to the tip of your bow. Many people have trouble with tensions in the right arm when they reach the tip or upper part.
If you need a should-rest try getting a taller chin-rest first and adjust the shoulder rest to be shorter to make up that difference. This is IMO better.
I have been fighting with my chinrest, trying to put things on top of it to close that neck gap, as mine is fairly long. I settled for a shoulder rest at the moment, but I have always wanted to try a higher chinrest. Main problem is that they seem to be very difficult to aquire.
I am also unsure of how high it needs to be since there is a place I could supposedly have one custom made (Flesch and Denig) Problem with that though being I don't live close to them to have one fit to me, and I am a little bit on the cautious side about ordering an 80 dollar chinrest when it might not even fit me correctly! So I was wondering, would you suggest I try the 35mm SAS chinrest first (highest mass produced one I could find) And see if I need anything higher after that?
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AdverseD said
I have always wanted to try a higher chinrest. Main problem is that they seem to be very difficult to aquire.
I wanted to try a higher chinrest. I fitted two little wood blocks to go under the feet of my Flesch chinrest---to elevate it. They were about a half-inch thick. I drilled through their centers and into the chinrest and fastened them to the chinrest using one small wood screw through each block. I did not change the clamping arrangement---just adjusted the barrel screws to make them longer. I ended up not using the elevators---just because the Flesch chinrest was all wrong for me anyway---but the chinrest was no worse after the experiment. It just has some short holes drilled in it, and the holes would not be visible when the chinrest is installed.
You could try it using a small piece of wood, a ruler, a pencil, a coping saw, hopefully a vise, some sandpaper, a drill, drill bits including a countersink bit, and the two little screws.
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I love that 35mm SAS chin-rest. Super versatile too.
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Fiddlerman said
I love that 35mm SAS chin-rest. Super versatile too.
Well I decided to purchase it from fiddlershop! I know that if you like it and you have a custom raised chinrest on your violin, and you liked the SAS too, I will probably find my solution in it for the time being. Thanks.
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