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ftufc
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November 10, 2012 - 11:33 pm
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Notice I didn't say "playing the cello".  Here's the video you ALL (okay maybe just a couple) of you have been begging for, lmao.  Please keep in mind (not making excuses, just warning you) that I just did this vid after all of 5 hours of experience with it.

And, once again, another headless video of myself... what the hell; I just didn't have enough focal depth to get all of me and the cello in together,,, so just picture my fingers flying all over the fingerboard hitting exactly the right spots (once again, flying "tapeless"),,, okay, so I guess you can hear,,, not exactly all the right spots; hey I've been drinking, lol,,, no more excuses, here it is.....

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Hi,

It's very impressive, ftufc. Of course I had a few beers before listening to it so you don't have to worry.....haha. I've been always practicing with my beers so that my violin could sound wonderful....haha.

But for 5 hours, that's something!!!

I love your ability to adjust the pitch so quickly and your playing really has potential.

I read somewhere that the bigger the instrument (string family) the slower it is, string reaction time, and a cellist playing together with violins has to start the note a tad ahead to be in correct tempo.

IMO, you did a great job. I don't know if I can do that in a month though.

BTW, that cello is very nice, both the look and sound, deep, resonate and clean.

Good job.

Robert

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Nice job Fred, loving the resonance.
Admit it, you positioned the camera so that we couldn't see the white tapes!

Wonder if it will help you change positions on your violin having to move your whole hand to play even simple scales ?

I am amazed at how old people of my age are.....

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so what would you say is the hardest thing to adjust to after playing violin, the odd bowing angle or the fingering ?

not bad at all for time spent. Warning, after playing Viola, violin sounds shrill and tinny under my ear now

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November 11, 2012 - 9:59 am

WOW, Fred, I am totally impressed with that performance. I recognized 95% of what you played, all the way down to The Tennessee Waltz.

Excellent job.

Maybe it was just the camera angle. Is the bridge cut higher on the A string side, becoming lower on the C side ? 

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You said that the cello "moves so much slower than the violin".  What did you mean by that?

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Thanks Robert, you'd love it.

Haaaaa, Terry; I don't dare put tape on this fingerboard, I'm renting it!  And I wish the picture would've included my left hand, because you could see just how far it is between notes; I have to move my hand to get to the correct locations, it's pretty tough, until it gets locked in.

Barry, it was actually a pretty natural transition; the bow feels natural in my hand, the fingerboard next to my neck felt natural, the angle of the left hand and arm felt natural, it's just the distance along the board that's challenging.  And you're ABSOLUTELY right about the comparison of sound to the violin.  On my second session, which lasted about 45 minutes, I went immediately to my violin, and it just sounded so shrill and shreeky in comparison,,, no mellowness like the viola.  AND, it took me a couple of minutes to call up in my head and hand where the correct fingering was, but it wasn't that bad. 

Thank you Ken, that really is kind of you; it is a real challenge to find the right spots and if you could recognize (and I understand the difference between recognize and like, lol) 95% of what I did, after 5 hrs, then I am very happy with that!  The bridge is definitely cut differently.  The C side is a great height but the arch between the D and A is only slight, so I find myself double stopping them both, just a matter of getting used to it I guess.  I got it from an incredible shop in Orange County, so I'm confident they knew what they were doing.

Yeah Rosined, because of the distance between fingerings and the thickness of the strings and the slower responsiveness of the strings, just as Robert (above) has mentioned, it's not a quick-flick kind of instrument, you kinda have to man-handle the thing; now my impression of that may be because I'm so new to it and/or because it's not a really expensive cello; they're selling this model for $1500, so it sounds okay (maybe a little "buzzy" instead of vibratory) and it handles okay; I'm going to stop in a couple other shops to try out different one to see what the difference in sound and feel might be.

I'll tell you something embarrassing, each time I pick it up (which has been 5 times now), at the end of each session, I hold the body of the cello against my chest and bow the strings individually and in combination, to feel the vibration inside my chest.  I'll do that for 5 minutes, and it's like freakin meditation; it is so relaxing and you can "feel" the notes, not just hear them, as in the violin.  I'm NOT converting, but I am in love, lmao.

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PMSL Fred.
At this rate you'll be having a warm bath with rose petals floating on the top for an hour before you start playing soon!
Man up FGS! You and me need to have a session on your punch bag and mats to get your man card back. roflol

Jkg mate, good to see the spiritual side of you is still in there somewhere moony-2173

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Terry!  No, I am PMSL!  I knew I was going to get a ration of shit for exposing my more sensitive side, HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!  But I think you're a little jealous of her aren't you, lmao.

HEY, should I lay the mats down for when you get here; we could turn this into The First Annual Socal Fiddlerman bbq/fiddle jam/spar fest, lmao!  Okay, maybe the mats would be too much, but it would be easy to break out the pads!

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So if the strings are CGDA, is that the same as the viola but much further down the octave scale?

I am amazed at how old people of my age are.....

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Cool! Who learned violin - will be able to play any instrument! Loved GRYMG!!!!

Thanks, Fred! You doing really well! So little practice and You can hit the right notes already!

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ftufc said

I hold the body of the cello against my chest and bow the strings individually and in combination, to feel the vibration inside my chest.

I wonder what would happen if you try it with some of that grease that they use for ultrasounds?

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Beautiful!  I see we are getting a couple more cellists here.  Wait until you start learning the other positions.  You can't play a complete scale in any position except first.  Too many notes are missing!  Now that you have another instrument you can play duets with yourself and post the videos.  How much fun would that be?

 

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My wife once took cello lessons on a $175 EBay model.

Within a few weeks she was making beautiful sounds (not much music however laugh)

I was jealous but the portability of the violin prevailed.

The cello is the most beautiful sounding of the string instruments to my ears ( in this hemisphere laugh)

 

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that sounded pretty damn nice... I can hardly wait to find one that needs repairs and I can keep for myself... (I'm just cheap that way! lol)1st-place

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