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Bow hair question
Upgrade or not?
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SEHatfield
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April 30, 2024 - 8:07 am
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Has anyone ever changed out their bow hair for a "higher" quality bow hair and did it make a noticeable difference?  I have a codabow prodigy I like and wondered what a hair upgrade might sound/feel like if at all? 

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I dont know if the hair was higher quality or not, but I had my codabow luma rehaired and just having new hair seemed to make a difference.

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@SEHatfield -

Hope you try the higher quality hair & give us a review! 

I posed the same quiry in the Dark Horsehair Bows? Thread - unfortunately, I never got a response... ended up trying black hair, which is great for my style of playing & my extended-range fiddles.  

I'd STILL like to know if anyone has tried higher-than-standard white hair & what it does differently for playing!    

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i think it would be difficult to do a scientific comparison.  I think youd have to somehow lock in the feel and sound of bow hair 'A' then switch to bow hair 'B' on the same bow and compare..

maybe let codabow rehair?

https://blog.codabow.com/news/.....-answered/

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Yeah, if only one bow - any rehair would sound good.

Sorry, I assumed most folks have a couple of bows - so maybe one with 'standard' hair to compare to a better quality rehair.

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Most people I know have two or more bows, but not two similar bows that could be used to compare different types of bow hair.

It's common to have a more expensive primary bow and a less expensive backup bow -- I have a top-of-the-line hybrid bow as my primary viola bow and a cheap student bow as a backup. It's also common to have two or more good bows with different playing characteristics to play different types of music. But in either situation, the differences between the sticks make it harder to compare bow hair.

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Why would a Coda Prodigy have inferior hair?

If you are unhappy with yours, then maybe it's old, or maybe it has been mis-rosined, or maybe you are overestimating your playing ability (no offence intended, but in the money-spinning world of violins and their demanding technique, it's crucial for people to practise more and spend less).

(My two bows are a JonPaul Carrera and a Coda GX. I also have a DeLille hybrid which I haven't used for a couple of years.)

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Not sure where you got that I said my Prodigy had inferior hair. Knowing there are "levels" of bow hair quality was what drove my question. And Codabow themselves even advertise they use different qualities of hair depending on the bow ... inferring their entry level bow, Prodigy, might have the least quality. I'm simply curious as to whether upgrading would make a discernable difference. No offense taken. 

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SEHatfield said

Not sure where you got that I said my Prodigy had inferior hair.

From your suggestion that you upgrade it. It would be inferior to the upgraded hair.

... Codabow themselves even advertise they use different qualities of hair depending on the bow ... inferring their entry level bow, Prodigy, might have the least quality.

That answers my question. But it lessens my estimation of Coda.

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Given samples of two different bow hairs, I would have no idea of how to evaluate them. 

Other than blindly accepting the word of the luthier, how does one distinguish between OK hair and better hair?

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Strabo said
Given samples of two different bow hairs, I would have no idea of how to evaluate them. 

Other than blindly accepting the word of the luthier, how does one distinguish between OK hair and better hair?

  

I think other people's thoughts is a gauge, in the end, it is the user who makes the decision as to what is best. I think bowing styles, abilities, desires, etc plays a big part. 

I know a lot of times I have "upgraded" something, only to find what I have, that some considered less of a "grade", was more to my liking and the upgrade, to me was a downgrade.

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https://www.facebook.com/reel/.....5058416550

Here's an idea for dying bowhair. There's prolly a more suitable thread for it, but it can go here.

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Gosh, if I only had pink hair to go along with that bow...

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