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Yamaha Electric Violin
I had the opportunity to purchase a discontinued Yamaha 130 Black Electric violin at a very low price.
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cid
October 18, 2019 - 6:37 pm
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I had the opportunity to purchase a discontinued Yamaha 130 Black Electric violin at a very low price. I was not looking for one, my husband spotted it. It is quite handy. I can just use my little Sony headset and I can play it any time I want, or I can just not use any headset because it is loud enough for my purposes when I am just doing exercises, but not loud enough to hear in another room.

A benefit of this that I thought of when using it is that the sound is not blaring into my ears like the acoustic. I use earplugs when using the acoustic violins because I do not want to risk hearing issues.

The violin sounds really nice. I can plug it into my digital piano. It is not as good as an amp would be, but this is not for a performance, ever.

The person who sold it had to quit the string instruments and his mandolin and guitars because of health issues. He is a musician and not someone selling something he or she knows nothing about, and has taken great care of his instruments.

Half of what he gets for them is going to charity local to where he lives. He had a selection of books and after I played for him, he assessed where I was at and I purchased three books from him. He was just going to give them to me, but we gave him the value of the books, it was for a local charity in his area. He was about 1 hr 45 mins away.

Something that amazed me was that the built in chinrest actually is working for me. Also, the Kun shoulder rest that was designed for this electric violin, is also working for me. It seems to nestle itself right on my shoulder where it needs to be and is secure, but free to move when I want it to. I think it is the extra weight at the tail end due to the electronics. It balances into that spot. It is giving a nice weight distribution to keep it in place.

The violin does not have a scratch. The bow and case that came with it are really nice. The picture is one I found online, but it looks like mine. The all black is really nice.

I am curious how anyone else who has an electric violin likes how it feels with the shoulder rest and chinrest. I am not talking about an acoustic electric.

 

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@cid .  Your post confused me.  Did you end up buying the Yamaha, or just the music?   

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October 18, 2019 - 9:34 pm
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Sorry, @Irv  we bought the violin at the price he asked. And then bought the books. He said someone actually offered him $200 for violin. That was laughable. It is very convenient. I get up much earlier than my husband and can now “fiddle” with my violin if I want to, among other benefits. The fingerboard feels just like playing my acoustics. It nestles so comfortably on the shoulder at the neck.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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I think you will find it to be very enjoyable.  I enjoy playing mine (a cecilio, not as nice as yours, but it gets the job done).  No way would I have paid extra for the music though.  I am going to have to train you to be a better negotiator lol.

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October 18, 2019 - 10:18 pm
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He wasn’t going to charge us for the books, we just paid him what they were worth. He wasn’t keeping the money himself. The violin was pretty much a give away. 

It is a shame he has to give them up. He isn’t wallowing about it though. You would have been impressed with his music room. All kinds of gadgets. LOL

Do you find the balance of the Celilio just lets the violin nestle in the shoulder nicely?

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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The shoulder rest can be tricky with solid electrics, which tend to be much thinner than acoustics and have perforations everywhere and can lack the bout and the beading that normal rests require.

I've got a big soft padded shoulder rest with rubber bands to use on my Hidersine HEV1, but I haven't played it enough to be able to report on it.

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October 19, 2019 - 7:58 am
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The one that came n my Yamaha was made for this violin by Kun. It has two “poles” or “legs” that slip into holes On a section at the neck edge. Quite nice. There are two holes on the shoulder side, non-chinrest side, I think, either that or it is the chinrest side. One side has two holes, in any event. This allows for a little adjusting, plus the rest itself has a tad bit of adjusting allowed. For me, it is perfect. 

I googled this shoulder rest, it is short, but quite expensive. I guess that supply and demand really plays a part in this shoulder rest. It is the only one I found like this when I checked out of curiosity. I don’t need one because it came with my violin, but I was curious.

 

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@cid .  I am sure that Yamaha made the violin so that it will be able to sport any shoulder rest you would like to put on it.  The cecilio is the same way.  I utilise a Wittner Isny on mine (I liked it so much I have several postings on it).  Wittner customer support is top notch and they provide me with free anchoring mechanisms whenever I get another violin so that I can easily transfer the shoulder rest between instruments.  

Yamaha makes a small amplifier that can be used on their silent violins, cellos, and guitars.  You should see if he has one of those.  Also, consider adding killing perfection pegs.  

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October 19, 2019 - 9:36 am
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I am very happy with my shoulder rest, so not worrying about getting a different one. I think I was looking in case I needed to replace it.

Yamaha makes a small amplifier that can be used on their silent violins, cellos, and guitars.  You should see if he has one of those.  Also, consider adding killing perfection pegs.  

My piano is good enough, usually use my headset. If I am not trying to be quiet, I use my acoustic violins. I really don’t want an amp of any size adding more clutter to my room. The local music store sells good small amps, if I decide to get one. My pegs are great. It tunes easily, right now. I am good. Thanks for tips, though. Things do change and I will keep them in mind. My eyes are getting worse (eye doc appt for new glasses this morning), if my hearing gets bad, will consider the amp. Getting older. You will note that I said, “Getting oldER”, not “Getting old.” 😂

For a joke, we hooked the violin up to a little karaoke speaker. We bought one that came with a mic for the kids way back decades ago when they were little. We still have it. We knew it wouldn’t be very good, but it was funny. My kids had a hoot with it. If it wouldn’t cost more than the shipping, we would send it to my granddaughters. They might be too small yet, to enjoy it. Maybe we will get them one when they get older.

I am just surprised the violin is comfortable with the chinrest (usually do not like that style) and shoulder rest it came with. It took forever and many combinations to find a march that worked on my acoustics. I still think it has to do with the little extra weight at that end helping it nestle into place. It is like it is gently cradled in place. 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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@cid - nice find !    You asked- 

I am curious how anyone else who has an electric violin likes how it feels with the shoulder rest and chinrest. I am not talking about an acoustic electric.

  I have a Thomann "Harley Benton" Ferrari-Red solid-body EV....  it was the cheapest EV I could get for new at the time LOL.   

   I made a number of minor mods (strings, bridge, nut, piezo/transducer pickup and some messing with the internal pre-amp) - but - to get to the point of your question - that instrument is now the only one I use a shoulder-rest with - and as it happens - it's the Kun - I find it really comfortable with the thinner bodied solid EV.  I spent ages in my first couple of years trying different shoulder-rests on my acoustics, and finally came to the conclusion that I'm much happier without one, but I definitely need one with the EV. 

  I'm not yet certain about the chin-rest on the HB - it's still the original side-mount that came with the instrument - and I don't really like it at all - my general preference these days is a center (over the tailpiece) rest.... I'll probably update it soon, or at least  swap it over with a center-mount from one of my other fiddles to try it out first.....

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