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Unknown violin markings in a Baroque music book
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athrun200
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January 23, 2017 - 6:18 am
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I purchased a ABRSM publication "Baroque Violin Pieces Book One" as I am interested in playing baroque music.

But there are some notations that I have never seen before. It's indicated by the red circles in the attachment.

Any help will be appreciated.

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Fiddlerman
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January 26, 2017 - 1:21 pm
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A volta bracket is almost exclusively used for repeats. In this case it might be used to emphasize that you should express those measures uniquely.
The emphasis that the author wanted to make by putting the volta bracket over those bars is most likely an emphasis related to how you articulate the dotted eight/sixteenth. My guess is that you may optionally double dot the eighth and play a thirty second note instead of a 16th if you like. This is common in baroque music.
The explanation might be included on the page somewhere or the beginning of the book.

As far as the 16th note stem over the 8th notes in measures 6 and 14, the eighth can optionally be played as a 16th note after a double dotted quarter. It's a question of taste.

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January 26, 2017 - 2:29 pm
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Cool - thanks for the explanation @Fiddlerman - I had read the post and had looked at the image and like the OP @athrun200, I was confused/uncertain as well....  and I couldn't figure out what was intended either...   Interesting...

So, in a sense - (just in a limited sense of course) if I follow you correctly Pierre - the apparently confusing volta just means that it's a bar, or bars, or possibly even "segments of a bar" that are open to individual interpretation...  (within reason and timing constraints)

The way I've always seen this is that sheet of course is no more than an "indication" of what the composer, or score writer wants you to do - it is never (or, not necessarily) a true representation of what others (as a listener) will necessarily hear.... (where, when a soloist is playing, within reason, they can "make it their own", and importantly "unique to them").....  

Sure - it'll be different of course for a whole violin section in an orchestra - then for sure - it's gonna be a lot better if they all play the same thing, as scored ! LOL

Hmmmm....  there's always more to understand....  cool !

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Fiddlerman
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BillyG said

So, in a sense - (just in a limited sense of course) if I follow you correctly Pierre - the apparently confusing volta just means that it's a bar, or bars, or possibly even "segments of a bar" that are open to individual interpretation...  (within reason and timing constraints)
 

Late reply but yes in a sense. 🙂 Being familiar with this music I would guess it's mostly rhythmical.

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Fiddlerman said

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Late reply but yes in a sense. 🙂 Being familiar with this music I would guess it's mostly rhythmical.  

 LOL @late reply - man - right now I scarcely know what year it is....

I had to go back and read the post again and refresh my memory about the discussion - yeah - sure, I see what you're saying...   

Thanks for the feedback Pierre....  

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May 11, 2017 - 11:42 am
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BillyG said

 LOL @late reply - man - right now I scarcely know what year it is....

I had to go back and read the post again and refresh my memory about the discussion - yeah - sure, I see what you're saying...   

Thanks for the feedback Pierre....    

Glad that I am not alone Bill 🙂

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