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I make a motion that we eliminate the b in music.  I mean it just doesn't fit well.  Playing 1st position scales  in b makes my fingers confused,,,and I just don't like it. And of course the e flat is the most beautiful of notes.
So I vote that we just get rid of the b.  Kinda like some of my old guitar players learning a new song,,,just eliminate the hard parts and call it our style.

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When all else fails, improvise.

With violins there is no fretting over the music.

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Tune your violin to a flat then its all good .. that is until you get something and have to revert to playing "#" . I say we get rid of all #'s       ;)

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It's tempting to vote aye, because there are quite a few Lady Gaga, Niki Minaj and Madonna songs in the key of B.  But I'm going to have to go with a nay vote overall, because the great song, "The Best Day Ever," by the famous singer SpongeBob Squarepants is in the key of B and I don't think it should be transposed to any key other than the original -- since it's a classic.  So, I'm afraid you'll need to keep practicing the B scale.  Keep in mind it's just W-W-h-W-W-W-h, like any other major scale. 

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Tyberius said
Tune your violin to a flat then its all good .. that is until you get something and have to revert to playing "#" . I say we get rid of all #'s       ;)

And I say we get rid of all flats. ;)

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I find this so discriminatory.  

All notes deserve a voice and have a right to be heard.

Even those really unusual ones that have no real name, and can only properly be identified by a number, in Hz, and are found lurking between the semitones.  You know, the ones that unexpectedly make an appearance, especially during my playing!

I recently de-tuned my G to an F#  (Riff-Raff needed it in an attempt I made at a track from Rocky Horror).   All the other notes were still there, see, they didn't mind about being moved up the fingerboard at all.  

Did they complain, no they did not.   All notes deserve our respect.

So, I say nay, keep them all ! roflol

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Same, I agree. We should keep all the notes

Playing a piece is easy... Playing it right is not...

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Bill said

All notes deserve a voice and have a right to be heard.

I recently de-tuned my G to an F# 

Ha, I de-tune mine all the time,,but it is unintentional.
And I don't want any "free speech" on the violin,,some notes have no right to be heard.  But that doesn't stop them, does it?

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MrYikes said

..... And I don't want any "free speech" on the violin,,some notes have no right to be heard.  But that doesn't stop them, does it?

LOL !  I guess that's another way of looking at it !   You may well have a valid argument there !

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No b's, no #'s ?  Kinda limits what we play, doesn't it ?

 

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If you discriminate like that doesn't it turn into a viola?dunnofacepalm

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if we need a b then we can just play a  and c, together they average b, right?

And I like sharps so well than most of my notes are already part way there.

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I think there was a bit of confusion in your joke. No B naturals or no key of B?
I think that some are thinking that you want to eliminate flats. b's and #'s.......

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but the one who needs the least."

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moot point, I think.  It has run its course.  I said b, someone else said flats, someone else said sharps.
I was complaining about running the 1st position b scale, but also I have had a dickens of a time getting the song "Somewhere My Love" to sound good.  It has a recurring A# to B at the words "my love" (key of G).  I have discarded the song for now until my talents improve. (its actually f#,a# to g,b,,,double stops, but I don't do those yet) But the Swan Lake G to B doesn't sound bad at all.
Methinks, learning violin can be frustrating and some silliness can be a good thing...especially if we drop the b.

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Something reminded me of this thread - had to search and search - but finally found it - 6 years old - wow - the year I joined !

Methinks, learning violin can be frustrating and some silliness can be a good thing...especially if we drop the b

That was a good laugh - we were all a bit crazy back then!

So it WAS you @MrYikes !!!  Got that accursed b feeling good now or do you still want it disposed of ?  LOL

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@BillyG , @MrYikes -

Wow!  Great thread!

I have a Love/Hate relationship with "B".

  • 😍I "Love" several tunes I play in the key of B/Bmin. 
  • 😠I "Hate" that my "Mortimer" obviously dislikes it - will sing almost all notes... except B!
  • 😔Always trying to make "B" sound better (sigh). 

I know I have to learn to live with it because I don't think it's a good idea to transpose EVERY tune to a different key I like to play! (lol)🤭 

https://i.etsystatic.com/9952481/r/il/fda6b4/1641348982/il_570xN.1641348982_pm52.jpg

 

- Emily

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sometimes the key of C  is annoying...make a motion to change all keys to D..ish

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Emily @ELCBK  you may like this tune in Dm..  one if the few south 👈 of C Ive had..

http://www.happyhollowmusic.co.....20Eyed.pdf

sheet music isnt from a site she has but I like her playing.

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@ABitRusty -

Funny, I was about to ask if there was some trick to get a "B" to resonate better, like maybe tune up/down a few Hz. 

Just checked it again (B on the G string) and it's singing - maybe not a huge amount of resonance, but I'll take it! 

Gee, amazing what new strings do for a fiddle. 

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- Emily

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I wi

KindaScratchy said

Tyberius said

Tune your violin to a flat then its all good .. that is until you get something and have to revert to playing "#" . I say we get rid of all #'s       ;)

And I say we get rid of all flats. ;)

  

ll second that

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