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I bought a Dizi flute on impulse the other day. Key of G one. I thought it might be fun to expand my musical skillset with another instrument. It's a rather inexpensive instrument, I believe it was only 25 USD. Later I discovered the G and F have a brighter sound, while the D and C are more mellow. Hopefully I will like the tone of my dizi. If not it's not a big loss if I decide to go for a C or D one in a couple of months if I still stick with the instrument and thinks it's fun. Most likely they both will have their use. Does any one here play dizi flute? What type of dizi do you play? If not, what do you think of the instrument? 

If you don't know dizi, here's a sample.

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That was beautiful. 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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It really was. She's a talented young lady.

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If I had the time to get into that, I would get one. If that something that one could just pick up and do here and there once the fingering for notes is learned? I am thinking that with no bow, ... But, I am thinking that it might not just be blowing the proper way into the top hole and fingering. Maybe, there are specific ways to blow into the hole for specific notes? That would complicate things and make it more time demanding. 

Let us know how it goes. It would be so easy to take places!

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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I haven't received my flute yet, but I'll let you know how well it goes. I did read some online, and apparently it's not a demanding instrument to play. It's similar to recorder and western flute. Higher octaves need a different breathing technique and air flow, but in the octaves it doesn't seem like there's much different breathing required for each individual note. I don't know if that's true or not, but it seem promising. 

Yeah, I think the flute might be easier to transport than a cello. A violin even. 

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You can get some very compact, elegant flute cases.

When I gave up playing the oboe in 1981, I always intended to buy a Yamaha flute on my credit card, but I never got around to it.

Finally I bought an Eastar EFL-1 (£66) a few months back. There are some good review vids of it on Youtube. I wondered if I could buy a solid silver Yamaha mouthpiece later to go with it, but apparently that's a big gamble, as not all flutes have the same diameter tubing - what a tragedy!

When I was in my late 20s and early 30s (when the video below was recorded) I was very fortunate - the Guo Brothers used to busk regularly in Covent Garden near where I worked. Yue was a great dizi virtuoso, but unfortunately his brother (sheng player - mouth organ) took to drink and they are no more. The Wiki page used to say more about it, but they've censored it, or maybe they were just wrong.

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@Gordon Shumway Enjoyed the video.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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@Gordon Shumway wow, that guy must have lungs of steel. Amazing.

How are you getting along with your flute?

I did found some really neat cases, but I couldn't find out how many flutes they could hold. Full length cases so you don't have to take the flute apart each time you play. Would be nice to have a solid case that could hold 5 flutes. So I could build my full range over time. 

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HP said
How are you getting along with your flute?...so you don't have to take the flute apart each time you play. 

For a while I had it out permanently on a stand and was learning the fingering and the overblowing, but then I put it back in its case and haven't seen it for a while. It's sort of like oboe fingering, but different, so I'll need some practice.

The violin is a thousand times more important - that's why I bought such a cheap flute: I was planning to spend ten times as much, but realised I was spreading myself too thinly. We do California Dreaming in our uke group, so I must learn the flute solo asap!

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Same with me, the violin is the main focus, the flute would be just a thing on the side. 

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Got my Dizi today. It surprisingly smell like a new car so I left it out to air for a couple hours. It's not very pleasant to have that right next to the nose. Maybe I'm just weird, but I've never liked that kind of smell. Besides that, I was able to make a sound with it the couple minutes I looked it over. Hopefully that means it will be easy to pick up, if not, well I'm up for a challenge, after all I play fiddle.

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 Very nice! 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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This is a beautiful sounding instrument. There are so many different types out there I wasn't aware of this one. The closest I came was buying a tin whistle when I was in Ireland. I admired the players here locally who play it.

The violin has probably taken most of my energy. I have a few things like harmonicas laying around that aren't too hard to play. I thought the tin whistle was a challenge.

I've seen people making flutes on YouTube out of pvc pipe. This looked interesting to me as maybe a way to add some interest in a recording. 

I hope you are able to get some enjoyment from the flute! 

When I want a flute I mostly cheat now using vst instruments. My favorites are the ones from Precisionsound. This comes more naturally to me as a keyboardist.

You might be familiar with the Nordic flute 

My absolute favorite is this one- Celtic Whistles

I love that using the mod wheel you can bend notes like a real flute player!

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@hp congrats on the new instrument and post some vids when you get going with it!

@starise those vst instruments sound good.  I checked out the sound cloud demos.  Thanks. 

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@GregW  FYI- 50% off sale going on there right now. Use code SUMMER2019.

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Thank you all amuse

@starise So far it's been troublesome. Got some problems getting the membrane to stay in place. Apparently that's a common problem for beginners. 

I was unaware of the Nordic flute, by that name at least. I thought maybe it was a sallow flute, but it doesn't look like it's the same instrument. It sounds nice though.

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@starise So far it's been troublesome. Got some problems getting the membrane to stay in place. Apparently that's a common problem for beginners. 

  

A member of my uke forum says this: -

"I bought a Dizi from Guo Yue. It's quite nice but I later got a better one in Hong Kong. Getting the membrane adjusted so that it works properly is a right bugger. He briefly tried to show me how to do it and to lick a bit of dried chinese mushroom to produce a glue to attach it. It has to be the right material. Fag papers, greaseproof paper, bits of tinfoil etc. just won't work, nor will most glues stick it properly. There's probably a dizi forum somewhere where they discuss their favourite membranes and glues.

If you ever buy one in China, take a tuner with you. The prices seem random but you'll quickly find that they are directly proportional to how well in tune they play."

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Thank you for the sharing of experience. I got so frustrated by the glue that came with the flute that I ended up with the lazy mans solution, scotch tape. Several people recommended that solution and it works pretty good. Maybe not ideal, but hey, it works.

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HP I'm glad you found something that works. I hope you enjoy playing it.

Buying instruments that are hard to tune reminds me of a  baritone bouzouki I bought a few years ago for a good price. The price was too good to be true and it was.

I experimented with it using different strings. Never could get it to stay in tune. It has electric "guts" in it They probably aren't too novel either.

That instrument will likely be used in the future for a destruction video. I might back over it with the car or set it on fire, take it to a firing range for target practice. Something like that.laugh

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starise said
That instrument will likely be used in the future for a destruction video. I might back over it with the car or set it on fire, take it to a firing range for target practice. Something like that.laugh

  

Oh yes, I would like to see that thumbs-up

'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.

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