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Looking for CD and DVD reommendations for cello, violin and viola
I am looking for music to listen to and musicians to watch. I have not been successful.
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@bob Thank you. I emailed the link to myself for my laptop.

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cid said

What browser are you using?

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You should be aware that recently Google has blocked the ability to download videos.  They have put this block in place because they want to be able to present ads to you.  They view downloading videos and playing them outside the browser as a way that users circumvent their ability to give you ads and they feel they are losing revenue.  It has nothing to do with any legalities.

So the addons will not work on Google Chrome.  

I use Firefox to watch videos.  The addon I referenced will not work on Google Chrome.

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I have firebox downloaded on my laptop and the non-chrome Google, not sure what it is called, but it is not not Google Chrome. Windows XP? 

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Firefox will work fine.  

I am not sure what the non-chrome browser is you are referring to.  It is not called Windows XP.  That was a windows operating system used 10 to 15 years ago.  Support for Windows XP ended in 2014.

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I get them confused, but I know it isn’t chrome that is my default browser. I thought the XP was the OS. It is Explorer.

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If you are running Windows 10, a new browser was added to the OS called Microsoft Edge.  Internet Explorer is still installed but it is sorta hidden.  Microsoft, in all their wisdom decided to add a new browser to Windows 10, but made it look like Internet Explorer and confuse everyone into using the new browser.

I do not use either Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge.

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Here's another classical selection, Beethoven's duo "with two eyeglasses obbligato" for viola and cello. About 9 minutes long.

If you're wondering about the title, Beethoven wrote the piece for a cellist friend who was very nearsighted. Beethoven most likely intended to play the viola part himself -- before he became famous as a pianist, he started his music career as an orchestral violist.

There aren't as many close-ups here. But the viola left hand technique in this video is especially worth watching because Cynthia Phelps plays a monster 17-1/4" viola. Even though she stands 6 feet tall, she has to make the same kinds of adjustments as people who play average-sized violas with smaller hands.

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That was a good one, too. I noticed that she was holding the viola bow more like a cello bow, where the little finger is concerned. I will have to look into that. That is what it looked like.

It was interesting watching the shifting on the cello. I saw a few shifts that we have done in class on the A string.

It is helpful to see the finger action on the both fingerboards and the bowing. 

Why can’t I find these? I always pick ones to view that are really not what I am looking for.

I know when I played my cello today, I was recalling things I had seen in videos that applied to certain parts of that minuet, and I recalled what I saw in Cellopedia’s slow version. The mix of watching performances that were not lesson songs, and the Cellopedia slow version helped. I might be on the right track for helping me improve. We will see.

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I suspect it's because Ms. Phelps (famously) plays a very large viola, and the longer string may call for a heavier bow stroke. But even on a more typical sized viola, I think the pinky doesn't need to do nearly as much counterbalancing as it would on a violin.

The way I've been going about finding these videos is by trying to think of pieces that especially fit your criteria, then searching for good videos of those pieces that show individual players' technique clearly. There isn't much for unaccompanied solo string instruments other than Bach (at least not until the modern era), so I've been thinking about shorter pieces for 2-4 string instruments that don't have an overly dense texture.

Here are a few more ideas, as links rather than embedded so as not to flood the forum. Given a week or so, I can probably generate a fairly long YouTube playlist, especially if I include single movements of larger pieces.

Schubert, String Trio Movement in B-flat major, D. 471 -- this is the one completed movement of an unfinished string trio.

Glazunov, "Interludium in modo antico" from Five Novelettes for String Quartet

Schumann, Piano Quartet, third movement. This one includes piano, but each of the three string instruments has at least one extended solo where the other instruments mostly stay out of the way.

Borodin, String Quartet No. 2, first movement and third movement. I'm not sure if the first movement is too busy; the individual instruments do come through quite easily. I'm trying to get a sense of how busy is too busy for your purpose.

If you're looking to explore a bit more, there are a number of YouTube channels for chamber music concert series or festivals, where you might find what you're looking for. Some of the videos I've posted are from those channels.

One more thought: search for the Danish String Quartet. They've arranged and published a whole bunch of mostly Scandinavian fiddle tunes for string quartet, and frequently play them as encores. There are plenty of videos of their arrangements on YouTube, both played by the DSQ themselves and by other quartets. Here's one:

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@AndrewH said:

I suspect it's because Ms. Phelps (famously) plays a very large viola, and the longer string may call for a heavier bow stroke. But even on a more typical sized viola, I think the pinky doesn't need to do nearly as much counterbalancing as it would on a violin.

Oh, yea! facepalm I forgot about that. I actually read a pretty interesting article on the violin, viola and cello bows and their needs were pointed out. 

Thank you for the links and the search tips. It really does help to listen and watch performers, and not just videos of lesson songs.

Thank your everyone for your downloading tips, search tips, and links. More helpful than you know.

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