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Looking for CD and DVD reommendations for cello, violin and viola
I am looking for music to listen to and musicians to watch. I have not been successful.
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September 24, 2019 - 9:48 am
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Okay, in this age of everyone doing YouTube watching and streaming, I do not. I find it hard to concentrate and need the larger TV screen. I watch some YouTubes, but they are just short little videos. They are helpful.

I am, and have been for months, searching for CD’s and DVD’s. What I am looking for are solo instruments, not orchestra performances. I want to hear the cello, violin and viola. I want to hear how they should be sounding, not how I am playing it. It really helped on this Minuet I just started on my cello. 

I am not interested in 2 Cellos. They are good, but an electric cello that does not sound like an acoustic cello is not helpful. Plus, they can get wild, which I do not like. I want to hear the cello. I don’t particular want that really fast classical that makes me crazy. I cannot make any sense of it at all. That is an issue with the middle section of the minuet I am working on. It just seems like a lot of notes just thrown in the air and they drop in the staff paper and are divided into measures. 

I do not mind if it is cello and violin and viola, or any combination of the three. No piano because the samples I listened to have the piano taking over.

With the DVD’s I am looking for closeups of the fingering, bowing, or distance that is close enough to see the entire instrument clearing. I don’t particularly need audience span shots. I am interested in how that musician is playing that instrument.

I listened to YoYo Ma (sp) and th ones I listened to were too busy. I would like not 15 minute long songs. I am looking for a lot of shorter pieces. They can be classical that is not too busy that it sounds like jazz to me or what I described above about notes falling down , folk music, fiddle. Not busy, not jazz, not so much dynamics that the softer sounds are not heard unless I turn my volume way up and the the louder hurts the ears and shakes the house. I stopped listening to my classical CD’s because of that. I do mot have a system that allows me to do anything about that. 

I hope I was clear enough.

I found a YouTube by Cellopedia of a slow version of the Minuet I just started. I was watching his shifting and string to string movement of his left hand and bowing of bis right. Very helpful. I also was able to hear the rhythm. Extremely helpful. I also listened to a normal speed by someone else. I was able to get the right speed. I actually found it easier to play at normal speed. Pretty poory, but it was easier than my slow speed.

What I would like to do is pop in he CD’s when I am on my eliptical, sewing, riding in the car, etc. just keep listening. I would also like to pop them into my DVD player and watch them being played. All of this will really help, I think.

Thank you in advance.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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@cid 

I did some searching online just to see if I could find videos that met your criteria. It is hit and miss.  

The reason I looked for online videos is for the very issue you have discovered...  The majority of videos are now online.  I do not know of a CD/DVD collection that has what you are looking for.

Here is what I propose, if you are interested.

If you can locate the online videos of what you want and send me the links I will put them on DVD and send them to you.

I don't know exactly what you want, so finding the right videos for you would be difficult.  If you can find them, I will put them on DVD.

What do you think?

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Thanks, Pete. My question is, is that a copyright violation? I am kind of big on that. I know I slip up sometimes, but never intentionally.

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Maybe the ABCs of the Violin DVD series would be something? It's been a while since I watched the DVDs, though, but I found them useful. 

'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.

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@cid Unfortunately, most of the cello (and violin/viola) recordings I find on youtube are of "famous" players playing exceptional pieces. They are nice to listen to, but are not conducive to teaching me how they do it 🙁

I've found that Patrick Murphy's youtube channel has a lot of violin and cello pieces. Most tend to be 1st or 2nd parts of duets or other combinations, but the examples are usually clear and helpful to me.

A lot of the sheet music they're using is available on http://imslp.org

https://www.youtube.com/user/p.....phy/videos

Good luck and happy playing.

Bob

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When I'm wanting specifics for something I'm trying to work on I will ask my instructor to record audio or video of her playing.  Probably the best I can get since it goes hand in hand with my lessons.  More general stuff includes pegheadnation, online lessonvideos.com, or fiddlevideo➡ (pricey but high quality).  Homespun has a bunch of older DVD stuff available but a lot of the time theyve seemed more performance videos to me.  Even though they are trying to teach I just haven't been able to get as much from them personally.  Pegheadnation was the better of the online stuff I listed for me.  Amazon music has a lot of lesser known groups/artists (to me anyway) that release mp3's that have proven good play along tracks.  

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Thank you, everyone. I will be checking them all out. L Where is FYE when you want it? 😁

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cid said
Thanks, Pete. My question is, is that a copyright violation? I am kind of big on that. I know I slip up sometimes, but never intentionally.

I am pretty sure that content available on YouTube and other internet video hosting sites is not protected under copyright laws.  I will look into it.

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@cid 

(disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and cannot give legal advise.  I am a violinist, which I would rather do than be a lawyer any day and twice on Sunday)

I have looked up the copyright laws regarding using content on the internet and there is something called "Fair Use" which does allow you to reuse copyright-protected material under certain circumstances.

For personal use, no it is not illegal to download YouTube Videos.

However, YouTube is owned by Google and Google has a Terms of Service which does state that you agree "...not to use content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the website itself, YouTube player or such other means YouTube may explicitly designate for this purpose."

This is Google's Terms of Use, but not a legal agreement.

I, personally, have no objection to using YouTube videos. The property owners have essentially given up their copy protection by posting their work on YouTube, and the recordings of concerts are not protected because of Fair Use.

It is really up to you whether or not downloading video from YouTube is acceptable to you.

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Cid

...if the minuet is one of the Suzuki's (which I am presuming) they have cd's accompanying the books, both with individual violin and then piano back up, also they have that guy (and several other people online) that you can play along too....all are legal, all are solo instrument, and you can see the fingerings, that's what I was using, very helpful...

https://www.youtube.com/channe.....9PUhEV_-fg

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I have found the Suzuki online. I have them bookmarked by Cellopedia and the other guy who does it with and without piano, and with and without metronome. 

I was trying to find other pieces to listen to and watch. I think it would be helpful. I might try one of the less expensive cello CD’s to give it a go. I had some on one of my Wish Lists on Amazon, but, for some reason that complete list has disappeared. I could not find them for the last few months I was checking through Amazon. I guess I spent too much time trying to decide. I did delete a few lists a while ago, old Christmas lists for the kids that I never got rid of. Maybe, I accidentally delete my Music CD and DVD private list, too.

One was all three instruments: violin, viola and cello. The samples were nice but it was pricey. I should have just bought it to listen to. 

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Personally I don't enjoy listening to the guy on the Suzuki vids, maybe it's just me being flustered when I can't "get it" I'm also thinking his fiddle is a little screechy, but bless his heart, I admire how he had to patience to do them all in slow, medium and performance tempo. 

What really does get me is after struggling with a tune and then getting online to see and hear how it should be....up pops a dozen or so 5 yo kids knocking it out of the park with their 1/4 violins - Really deflating !

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@Mimi Aysha Are you talking about Laszlo Mezo from Music Connect? I am not a fan of his either, but he does have the songs. I feel they are too mechanical. Cellopedia is good for slowed down versions. 

But I am not looking for Suzuki songs, or lesson songs. I am looking for CD’s and DVD’s of people performing so that I can be listening to clear cello, violin and viola without an orchestra muddling it up, poor choice of words, but you know what I mean. I believe listening to these instruments and watching them being played will help in my learning. I am really intent on learning these. Does this make sense?

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I cannot believe that I just found that CD list I had made on Amazon with cello, viola and violin! I just ordered the following:

The 6 Unaccompanied Cello Suites Complete - Yo-Yo Ma

Homecoming - A Scottish Fantasy - Nicola Benedetti (love what I have heard by her)

The Fuchs Legacy, Vol. 1 - Bach: 6 Suites for Cello Solo played on viola - Performed by Lillian Fuchs

Cello Music for Christmas (I accidentally ordered two and kept it that way. I will give one to my brother)

Now to find that elusive DVD. It may take a while, but I will find it. OR, I can find something on Dish and record it to my DVR. Then, as long as I have that hopper, I will have that video. That is an idea! The benefit of that is that I can watch it while on my elliptical on my pad with Dish Anywhere (or when visiting a daughter when we are back in our hotel rool), or on the TV in the bedroom, or my sewing room. 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Would this be too busy for you? There are some bits with a lot of notes, but the overall tempo is slow. And there are some really good shots of both musicians, especially the violist's bow arm on long bows. The piece is about 7 minutes long.

This is the Halvorsen Passacaglia for violin and viola, being played by two members of the Munich Philharmonic in an unusual location.

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@AndrewH 

That was perfect! Wonder if I can download that somehow. If I email the link to myself would I be able to download it from my laptop? I don’t see an option to download from my phone or pad. If you do that screen capture video option, you don’t get any sound.

I love the closeup of the fingering, the distance for the bowing, hold and posture.

That is my goal, sort of. I would like to be able to be good enough to feel comfortable to bring an instrument any place I go and feel comfortable and good enough to just play wherever I am, for myself, but not feel like I need to stop if someone happens by, but not to actually play in front of anyone as a performance.

Obviously, these guys are professionals, but to feel like I can just whip out my instrument under a bridge. Loved the little audience they collected (but my goal is not to collect an audience). I can’t figure out how anyone could walk by and not stop and listen to that, or at least glance over.

How can I downoad it? @Pete_Violin, how do you do that? I don’t want you putting one performance on a DVD. Many can fit, so that would be silly.

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@cid 

You can fit many videos on a DVD.  As a rule, a DVD holds 4.7 GB.  This translates to about 120 minutes of data.  How many videos depends on how large the files are and what type.

I recommend 2 methods.  

Method 1 -  Create 3 DVDs.  1 for violin, 1 for viola, 1 for cello.  This option would give you the option of choosing the DVD for the instrument you want to watch/hear.

Method 2 - Create 1 DVD with a menu where you can select the instrument and possibly the piece you want.

(You could certainly have a menu for method 1 as well)

For me, I would be more concerned with how you want it organized.  DVDs are cheap media.  I would not worry about how much room or how many DVDs you need.

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 Don’t seem to find a option to download. Copy will just get you the link to paste. 

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Oh.. sorry.. I add an addon to my browser that allows me to download videos.

It's called HD YouTube Downloader

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Ok, thanks. Will look for it. What browser are you using?

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