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Looking For Vibrato iPhone App
My instructor used an app today and I can’t locate it
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August 9, 2019 - 7:22 pm
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First I am using the Breakroom instead of Learning Violin or Learning Cello because it would be used for Cello, Violin or Viola.

My instructor used an app in our lesson today. I can’t find it in the app store or by Googling for it. He was teaching me vibrato. This app would graph how even your vibrato is. It showed a wave. You can see how even the vibrato is note wise and constant speed by how consistent the wave is.

I didn’t have time to ask him what it was. My normal day is Wednesday, but he was sick and we had it today, Friday. Friday is a very busy day. There was a student before me and one after. I had to pack up my cello and bow and music so the next student could get it. My lesson was next to last for the day. The store was closing after the next lesson, so I did not want to take up his time. I figured I could find the app.

It was extremely helpful. I searched the apps for Vibrato App, Music Vibrato App, String Instrument Vibrato App. I added the word, “wave” after “Vibrato”. I can’t remember what else I used. I did this in the apps and in Safari. I could not find anything like it, or that even did that. I reminded me of my husband’s oscilloscope(?) waves. 

My instructor just set his phone in the music stand and turned it on. WhenI did the slow vibrato we did it until the dips and rises vertically were the same height, and the size waves horizontally were equal. Then we sped it up and more waves appeared because there was more up and down. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

This was a simple screen. It picked up the sound of my cello and visualized the sound waves if the vibrato as I did it. The wave stayed until you removed it. In after words, the wave did not disappear from the screen when I stopped playing. Whatever length there was, remained in the screen after I stopped playing.

Thanks for any assistance. 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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The first I heard of such was reading your post so I did what you probably did and googled...is this it?

http://intonia.com/iOS.shtml

 

Looks interesting.  Maybe look for intonia in the app store.  Think thats what the apple version of google play is.  Neat software.

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Thanks, @GregW That isn’t it though. There was no technical stuff. He just turned it on and it showed the wave of the string I was playing. I had to do with music because I recall seeing the Note letter on the screen, if that is what it was referring to. It was landscape, not portrait. Makes sense since you need the length more than height os what you are looking at. 

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There was one out there like that but was marketed towards vocals.  Would still work.  Maybe look for apps written for singers.

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Good idea, Gregw.

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BillyG said
This perhaps dunno @cid ?

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/.....d944309175

  

@BillyG 

It looks a little different, but might be doing the same thing. I have downloaded it and will give it a try when I pick up my instrument later. 

I tried practicing the vibrato without it yesterday. It is hard to make sure I am rocking right at the moment and wanted to see how even I was slow before trying to speed up a little.

Looks promising.

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@cid - ok, sounds like something similar - yeah - go try it out - let us know !  🙂  Oh - I've forgotten what search term I used and the browser window is closed now - it would have been something like "vibrato pitch modelling app for phone" or something close to that....

Personally, as far as vibrato goes - never yet mastered it in the true "classical" ( or better said, "traditionally expected and taught" ) manner - but I manage to get-by (for what I play) with, what I guess is a "fairly tight finger vibrato" ( as distinct from a full semitone, or indeed occasionally wider from what I hear, on a really "wide" vibrato....)

But - I guess - wider vib is easier way up the fingerboard - so in first pos which I'm largely in - I could never really expect a wide vibrato the way I do it - way up on the neck - sure - but I rarely play beyond 3rd, and even THAT is unusual.....  So, what I can manage just gives me enough for what I need right now - but I won't be giving up on the real thing 🙂 that's for sure LOL

Keep us advised !

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Does your teacher allow or encourage you to send questions between lessons? If so, maybe you could shoot him a text and find what the app is for sure? My teacher just had be use a metronome, but visualizing it sounds like an interesting way to learn it. As I get into something I can kind of zone out and tune out the noises around me, which is bad when I should be listening to the metronome, but you can't zone out something you're watching, haha.

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I don’t have any contact info. We go through the music store. I am sure he does not need texts coming in during classes. I also feel that you pay for that time period. After that, it is his off-lesson time . It is great that some instructors allow that, but, I wouldn’t do it even if I had his contact info. I would not want to be called or texted off hours if I had a job in an office, factory, or whatever, and I was off “duty”. My former guitar teacher gave me his contact info. I didn’t use it. I waited until class.

I was trying to see if I couldn’t find the app before my next lesson so that I could use it. Might not be available any longer. BillyG’s link looks promising. Will be trying it in a little while. Have it downloaded.

But, for me, visualizing the little line’s highs, lows and widths of the wave helped me in the lesson, I was able to see how smoothly I was rocking my finger. It actually helped me adjust and made me concentrate more. It was my first introduction to vibrato. Strangely, it did not pick up the other sounds in the studio, although there was not much background. 

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My teachers both have told me to reach out if I ever had questions, but I never did (my current teacher is only via skype, so emailing is our only form of contact, though, but she sends me video recaps of the lesson which is a huge resource, so I usually don't need to ask anything because of that). This would be something I would have made an exception for, though, since it seems it would benefit your practice. But I get it, I never want to bother teachers during their off time (I work in an office and do get texted questions in my off time all the time, I just draw the line at actually answering calls, lol). It's good that Billy's link seems to be close, though 😀 

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That is great that you get those video recaps! Nice.

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It's a perk I didn't expect, they are usually only a minute long since she needs to fit them into an email, but they are nice to go back and review.

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A minute can spark a memory to help.

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@BillyG The app is pretty good, but actually better for another purpose. I like my instructor’s app for the vibrato better, but it did work. I found it really good for something else. After I have used it a while for this other purpose, I will post a review of it. Thank you for that link! That other use so far, with the little test, was quite a useful perk.

It was just a little test. As much as I wanted to play my cello just now, I just could not get into it and had to put it away. Bummer.

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Could it be something along the lines of a sound wave app? Lots of results pop up with that search as well.

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damfino said
My teachers both have told me to reach out if I ever had questions, but I never did (my current teacher is only via skype, so emailing is our only form of contact, though, but she sends me video recaps of the lesson which is a huge resource, so I usually don't need to ask anything because of that). This would be something I would have made an exception for, though, since it seems it would benefit your practice. But I get it, I never want to bother teachers during their off time (I work in an office and do get texted questions in my off time all the time, I just draw the line at actually answering calls, lol). It's good that Billy's link seems to be close, though 😀 

  

Mine doesn't have a problem with occasional questions via text.  She encourages recording though probably to help with the after lesson questions.  Ive even seen a student or 2 video a tune.  Can't imagine NOT being able to record.  Very helpful.  But everyone is different.. Some may not feel comfortable with it.  @damfino  how do you like the skype format?  Any technical glitches with it much?

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@GregW I was worried about skype at first, because I was used to having a teacher be able to watch my technique closer in person, but it has worked out really well. I usually unplug anything in the house that might be using the wifi to run updates (my roku, ipad, and turn the wifi off on my phone) so that the wifi is only being used by my computer to run the skype lesson. If I don't do that, it will start freezing or pixilating. I make sure I have myself in the frame so that how I'm holding the fiddle and bow can be seen in case I start getting lazy with my technique and need correcting. The way skype mutes out the other person if I start talking or playing makes playing together impossible (we managed it once, somehow) so we always do call and answer when learning something, so I do miss playing along, but the videos she sends me makes up for that.

But overall I really like it. My old teacher has a lot of experience, but so does this teacher, just in different areas, something I couldn't get out of a teacher locally so I'm happy to have skype to make the world smaller that way. I'm really learning a ton from her.

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