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This says its A.I.
not sure i buy that
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what to you think?   Even if it is.. its not like its a stretch for someone to come up with a version like this.  plenty of Frank Sinatra impersonators out there.  

https://youtu.be/9y52GUaIC5A

 

The original.. for reference.   To be honest I like the Sinatra-ish version as much.

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Interesting Greg, I have  seen radiohead live and this is one of my favourite tunes of theirs.

I think this is a very, very bad spanish singer trying to impersonate to be honest. I have heard loads of buskers in Europe trying to do tunes by English bands and unfortunately they can't pronounce the words the same as we do, stands out a mile.

On the other hand could be AI but if it is Whoever made it should give up.

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Haha @stringy... I HOPE its a Spanish singer tbh.  Im like you and have always liked that one.

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My guess from the context is that AI has manipulated Sinatra's voice to sing a radiohead song. If you think it's not that good, I have a friend who sings well and used to be in the Westminster boys choir when he was young who loves Sinatra, for whatever reasons, but doesn't think he was actually a very good singer.*

could be AI but if it is Whoever made it should give up.

If it is an accurate demonstration of how unspecial Sinatra's voice was, then I think it's very interesting work.

I never liked Radiohead. I always found Thom Yorke's voice a painful whine.

*Something I gleaned from a documentary on Sinatra once was that he had every recording Heifetz ever made and attempted to learn his phrasing from him. If AI has pulled every note and syllable apart to construct something new, then it may have made him barely recognisable by destroying the original phrasing.

Perhaps David Bowie would be a more recognisable subject for AI to manipulate.

Meanwhile: -

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like that alf

heres one along the same line ive always chuckled with..

 

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This may not mean much to our American friends, but Bezt I could do, before anyone complains it's only a joke.

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@stringy ..much better than the ones ive seen generated over here...like Biden and the gang..( former Presidents Bush, Obama, Trump) play uno... or get ice cream.  

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Joe is very funny and very talented. :)

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I laugh, but the blurring of reality is scary for me... the nightmare stuff great sci-fi stories were made of is now entering our lives. 

If only all conscious entities had good intent... 

Bad enough people are not held accountable for libel nowadays - A.I. could easily completely ruin someone's life & nothing would be done about it. 

I, personally, want to know if I'm being tricked & have always hated where it's common practice (in some industries) to try to pass off faux products as real, e.g., jewelry materials & gemstones, antiques, some artwork & many 'designer' products, etc...  When it comes to me paying money, I HATE being fooled! 

I also don't want to be 'fooled' into thinking I'm reading an article written by a human, when it's A.I.! 

Wish I'd saved it, but a few weeks back I read an article in answer to a music theory query I did (a music-help site!).  It started out fine - then didn't make good sense & had some unnatural text repeats.  At that point I looked at the source - it was an A.I. 🤨  Made me mad that I wasted my time!  ...of course some people might rely on that bad info & spread it (why I try to cross check info)! 

 

Some cool things to consider about A.I. & music: A.I. is about to shake up music forever, but not in the way you think - BBC Science Focus Magazine

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1996 technology seemed about right.   if we could have THAT era and all the music of stuff today short of anything A.I.  then fine.  

I guess as things progress, technology/science gives solutions to problems..only to create different problems that then need to be solved...so on so forth.  guess its good "coffee talk".  I certainly love my modern A.C. and bluetooth is nice..  typing on a hand held computer.

I can see a.i. "art" as a tool.   I mean lets say you want a hobbit house background for a green screen.  saw a video so why such a random thing.. Are you going to paint a hobbit house background?   not very efficient for the context of whats its being used for.   NOW...if a person used A.I. to generate the same art and then passed it off as something they drew or painted..whatever...then thats kinda cheesey.

Of course the a.i. background couldve been done by a human designer which brings up the question of lost revenue for sale of the background.   Theres places on the interweb that one can purchase backgrounds for things like video and powerpoint type presentations.  those have a cost.  someone makes money with them.  

idk..  tricky kinda of situation world is in.

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There had been an AI reply on this thread, that's what my comment above, "that's AI" refers to but mouse removed it. There have been several AI generated comments o  here in the last few weeks, don't know what they hope to achieve as they are ridiculously easy to spot, maybe someone is testing out  their prog to see if people can be fooled, there is still one on here now.

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Usually the fact that the 1st post is in reply to a topic thats years old is a give away.   or a 1st post offering knowledge on something and that knowledge is a  generic type answer.  or some kind of link.

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Incidentally, Islamic law has never permitted photographic evidence, and I remember, when Photoshop was invented, saying on a forum that we'd have to give up relying on photographic evidence in Western law. It's far worse now.

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I think ALL artists are going to have to find a way to deal with A.I..

'Musician vs A.I' poses some interesting questions, because of the ways musicians interact with each other. 

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Not 'about' A.I., but there's been more than one affront to the music industry.

This recent video is more on how the music industry has changed & some tips on how professional musicians can still make a good living... in case anyone is thinking of a career.   

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Interesting about A.I. & Music (drifts a few times, but always gets back on topics).  I enjoyed listening while I was doing a few other things. 

...especially loved around 1:15:00 - when he talks about creative people like Beethoven & what happens in history. 

 

...hope Fiddlershop doesn't stop selling their coffee!

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So... took a few moments to check out Ted Gioia - Jazz critic & Music 'Historian'. 

I like his insight & how he connects what's happening today with points in history. 

 

...more to the point, an editorial from a few years ago. 

"The War Between Music And Math" - Ted Gioia. 

 

I do LOVE microtones and bending pitch!

...interesting about Pathagoras.     

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