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Vibrato Discussion
I am learning vibrato on cello. I have read other mentions of vibrato here and decided to start a thread. Since it is applicable to violin/viola/cello, I did it here. The cello, obviously is held differently, and may be done a tad differently, but other aspects may be the same.
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Gordon Shumway said
If you want to warm up your vibrato, do it in 3rd position.

If you don't know what 3rd position is, don't vibrato.

  

I find this statement to be weird, because most people that I know with teachers start out learning vibrato before 3rd position. You don't need to be able to play 3rd position to use vibrato. Sure it could probably be useful for some, but as far as I can tell most beginners start out in first position.

'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.

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HP said

Gordon Shumway said

If you want to warm up your vibrato, do it in 3rd position.

If you don't know what 3rd position is, don't vibrato.

  

I find this statement to be weird, because most people that I know with teachers start out learning vibrato before 3rd position. You don't need to be able to play 3rd position to use vibrato. Sure it could probably be useful for some, but as far as I can tell most beginners start out in first position.

  

Nicola's video explains that vibrato in 1st position is harder than vibrato in 3rd position.

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Some people advise to start practicing vibrato in 4th position because there you have the rib of the instrument to support the hand. (Of course there's no need to know how to play in 4th position for that.)

I guess having started 3rd position, and being somewhat used to shifting, can help with the vibrato motion.

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I really think where to start is up to that individual, when it gets down to it. I think that proves true because of the different methods you find in books, from instructors and on videos. I don’t think learning anything is a one shoe fits all. 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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wtw said
Some people advise to start practicing vibrato in 4th position because there you have the rib of the instrument to support the hand. (Of course there's no need to know how to play in 4th position for that.)

I guess having started 3rd position, and being somewhat used to shifting, can help with the vibrato motion.

  

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I really think where to start is up to that individual, when it gets down to it. I think that proves true because of the different methods you find in books, from instructors and on videos. I don’t think learning anything is a one shoe fits all. 

  

Intonation is the key here... and is always the most important consideration when using vibrato... 

My teacher will not teach me vibrato in any fingering position until I have consistent, solid intonation for that position.  

Not only is there a problem with playing with bad intonation, but also beginning to rely on vibrato to correct the intonation, neither are good for vibrato or your playing.

I would not feel comfortable with vibrato unless I was fairly confident with the notes I am playing... Not that you need to be perfect, but reasonably confident that you will hit the notes.

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