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Cello Bows - May be of interest to violinist and violist
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April 13, 2022 - 10:07 am
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There is a lot of talk about pernambuco and carbon fiber bows, pro and con. Bows are selected based on the user preference. But, I have never heard anyone mention the carbon weave or hybrid bows.

I have two pernambuco cello bows. One is a new one that is "Stiffer" and gives a harsher, louder sound than my older pernambuco bow. I was told by someone who knows, that the older one has mellowed out over time, not exact words. I use the newer  one for pieces I want a more vibrant or loud sound for. I use the older for those softer sweeter pieces.

I also have the Fiddlerman Braided Carbon Fiber bow. I love this bow. It is actually a mid point in sound between the two pernambuco bows. I have decided to use this bow when practicing and learning a piece. I will then learn the piece on each of the pernambuco bows. This will cause me to have to work the newer more vibrant louder sounding bow to sound sweeter in a piece I want that sweet sound, and cause me to have to work the older bow to get a louder, less sweet sound in pieces I want that sound for. 

But, if you are only considering carbon fiber or pernambuco and not happy with either, completely, try the Fiddlerman Carbon Fiber Weave line of bows. They are excellent and do have a different feel than the regular carbon fiber bows. Don't limit yourself to just the regular carbon fiber or pernambuco.

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May 15, 2022 - 8:04 am
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Hey Mouse!

I have what I consider a really good pernambuco, silver wrapped bow. The sound it produces is nice to my ear.

That said, I do have an older Coda bow that may not produce the best of sounds for me but it' soldiers on with nary a complaint. That right there may be the crux of the matter.
In 10 years the Coda will have pretty much the same "springiness", dimensions and curve as it had when it came out of production.
Where as my pernambuco bow will mellow and change over time with use. The lignin will have eased and softened allowing more of the wood to vibrate. 

In my opinion, older wood is really hard to beat for tone and overall sound but you have me interested in the hybrid bows!!! 

Hope that made sense.. my aging mind sometimes gets things wrong. LOL!!

-Jim

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May 15, 2022 - 8:38 am
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@Doc-Ivory, I think you do violin, right, Doc-Ivory? I have  the Fiddlershop hybrid violin and viola bows, carbon inside, veneer pernambuco outside. I like them. As with the cello bows, each bow has its own sound, so I use them depending on what type of song I am playing.

I  practice my cello more seriously than my violin, at the moment. It is easier for me to get into the proper position and fingering is easier because of the position of the hand when fingering the notes. When I get the cello down much better, I will do more with the violin an viola. Since I usually actually play pieces on the violin and viola instead of exercises, I change up the bows. With my cello, I am mainly using the carbon fiber weave right now, because switching back and forth while trying to learn does not seem to work for me. 

I am considering, however, purchasing the hybrid cello bow. That might help with me being able to, once in a while, use the bow that I prefer for a specific cello piece when I am just playing and not doing my self-created lesson pieces because it has a little carbon and pernambuco in it. Maybe the switch will not be as noticeable. Doubt it, but who knows. Have to have fun once in a while, 😁. I am going to use my hybrid violin and viola bows  a little more playing time and compare them to the carbon weave and pernambuco bows before I purchase the hybrid cello bow. 

I hope this makes sense to you and that I have not thoroughly confused you. I do that a lot, 😂.

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May 15, 2022 - 12:04 pm
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I'm gonna have to try one Mouse.
Anything that will help me with my tone is MOST welcome. :)

I play a bit of violin but I've been concentrating on that since March.
Ive played guitar most of my life and now banjo, mandolin and a smidgen of bass.

I'm truly enjoying, as frustrating as it can be, my violin!

ONWARD!!!

-Jim

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August 15, 2022 - 5:41 pm
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I just ordered my first Cello and got this bow to go with it… did I make a good choice for a beginner or is it better suited to a better player than a student?

https://fiddlershop.com/produc.....4090185779

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August 15, 2022 - 6:00 pm
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@FiddlerEd That is a fantastic bow. I have one. Whether you think it is fantastic is how it suits you, and how you cello likes it. But, it is a really nice one. 👍

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Thanks, I am new to all of this.

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