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Cello String Set is Very Hard to Play On
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June 16, 2022 - 7:47 pm
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I got my cello back a few days ago. It received a checkup and I had them put in a new set of strings. They did not sell, without ordering special, what I usually use, Evah Pirazzi Green Label. I told them that that was fine. They know I don't like bright, I like warm. Being one who likes to experiment with them, I said to go ahead and pick for me.

When I went in to pick up my cello, the cellist played it, it sounded lovely. I got it home and did mostly scales and had some issues, but I had not played it in over a week. I figured it was me. I don't think so.

I have had it home for 2 days now. I just finished playing it. I have little to no problems with just scales. But, try to play any piece I used to be able to play and I am fighting it. I am not giving up. The strings are new. Maybe they need breaking in. I do find it needs a lot of tuning, My green label Evah Pirazzi strings always settled right in.

I can feel a huge difference when bowing these strings. I can feel the bow, no natter which bow I use, just fighting it. It does not want to move smoothly from string to string. 

The strings are A and D Jargar Special (not to be confused with Jargar Superior), C and G are Belcanto Gold ( I think they are a Thomastik line). 

I am thinking that I don't have the bowing skillset to play on these strings. Maybe the tension on them is different from green label Evahs? It just feels like they are not cooperating. 

Should I just swap them out for my green label Evahs that have, or keep trying them. It sure tires my arm out trying to bow them. 

No, it is not my cello, the cello is fine.

Any comments would be welcome, If you are not yet a member and have used these strings, and maybe the green label Evahs (or not), please feel free and join and offer me your input, also.

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June 16, 2022 - 10:18 pm
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Im thinking if I had a string set like that...new...Id probably give them at least a week before taking them off and throwing in the towel.    But it sounds like youre probably headed that way.  I wouldnt expect strings to change that much even after a break in period.   

 if you ( people in general ) have to fight something about an instrument, it takes the enjoyment out of it.   

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June 16, 2022 - 10:36 pm
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I am thinking they require much more bowing ability than I have. But we will see.

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June 17, 2022 - 12:23 am
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This is a Hail Mary, maybe a different Rosin would make a difference?

Seems kinda odd.

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June 17, 2022 - 6:46 am
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@Mark Not that much of a hail Mary. I thought of that but, I don't think that is the answer. One of the bows I was using had a different rosin than the other two bows and it was the same thing.

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l am not sure removing rosin from the bows and putting more on again, removing it and putting another brand on again, removing, etc is actually that good for the bow hairs. It seems to me that that would damage the hairs doing that over and over again. So, I am reluctant to pursue the rosin thinking any further than using the bow with the other rosin on it and getting the same result. The same resistance to bowing, the same fighting between bow and string. 

I think that my bowing touch is just not up to par to be able to hse these strings. They are mellower and deeper than the green label Evahs.

I remember, quite a few years ago, when I wanted to get a warmer sound from a student level violin. I read that Obligato strings are warm. I purchased Obligato strings and tried them. It was almost the same thing, if I am remembering correctly. I could not bow the strings, it felt like I was fighting them. I got tired trying. 

I was told by someone here via PM or email, so I can't find the exact wording, unfortunately, that the Obligato strings had a different tension to get the mellow sound and that early violinists often have that problem with them. That is what I got out of the answer. I took them off, put a different set on, and I was back to playing. 

My thinking, is that that might be the problem. I don't have the bowing skillset for these, yet. These are a lot mellower and warmer, less projection, than the green label Evahs.

I am going to keep trying them for a week. It could help me with bowing, but I don't know what I am doing wrong. Unfortunately, having to deal with that is upsetting my progress of improving intonation. I am finding my intonation is going down the tubes on Mikey G. I can't tell if I am on the spot by hearing the tone with this set. I could hear it with the Evah green label. Plus, Inam dealing with the bowing. So, I am almost thinking that I need to remove these and pack them away for later?

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