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deano67
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I'm looking for a lesson on how to play the fiddle parts in the song Good Corn Liquor by the Steel Drivers'

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@deano67 -

Hey, Welcome to the forum - just saw you joined back in July!

Is this a @Fiddlerman request? 

Or, are you just looking for the basic melody notes? 

I'm not sure how much you need - might help to know long you've been playing. 😊 

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- Emily

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The fiddle is my second instrument. I mostly play electric guitar. Wanting to learn  the fiddle part and backing to this song. Been playing the fiddle off and on around 15 years. Thanks

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@deano67 Seems like that song goes back and forth between A and E or maybe Em?  I havent attempted on fiddle.  Id like too.  I wonder if cross tuning AEAE would help?  If you find something can you post here?  always liked this and The Sticks That Made Thunder.... pretty much anything steeldrivers

 

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AEAE..meh. seems like opening lick is Em arpeggio and easier in standard maybe.  Have you gotten that part yet?  It seems to be repeating alot but with the double stops thrown in.

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think standard tuning better probably.

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@deano67

Also... seems like 4th finger unison with high e string on the end of the main lick.  So start on your D string and play E G the B over on A string slide up to the D and back down to th E.  next time skip the slide up to D and hit the ope E and slide up your 4th finger until its unison with E.  seems like the whole thing repeata.

If you find different..again post here cuz its a cool song.  id like to know what you find

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@ABitRusty , @deano67 -

Okay, you guys sucked me into this. (lol)  

Seen videos using 3 chords - E, A & G.

Can't really see what the Fiddler is doing and I had to slow this video way down to hear well. 

 

 

This is what I hear:

Fiddler starts off with the E minor Blues scale. 

E Minor Blues Scale & Licks

Forgive me, I do NOT know proper ABC notation - haven't learned it yet, but found where to, for later.  So, please bare with me. 

String changes are in ( ). 

Fiddle: starts up the (D) string - E(D), G, A(A), A#, B then back down to A, G(D), then slide from open (D) up to E.  Repeat E(D), G, A(A), A#, B then back down to A, G(D), then slide from open (A) up to B

Then Mandolin? comes in with a nice lick: B(A), C#, over to E(E), F#, back to C#(A), E(E) - C#(A), D, then down C#, B, F#(D), G, E

...that starts it off.

So, the melody is mostly 4 notes: E and G on the D string, A and B on the A string. 

Add slides, octave notes and double stops. 

Em or Em 6th chords, AM or AM 7th chords, Gm or Gm 6th chords?

There's some more partial response of just running down B, A, G, E and some more cool Mandolin after 02:40 in the video.  I didn't pay a lot of attention after the beginning because of all the repeating.

Maybe get more ideas here: 

 

 

 

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/87/17/b2/8717b2d4fdb36276fd4092adfbbd002e--type-design-design-layout.jpg

 

Does any of this help? 

- Emily

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I could put it on my "to do" list. :) Just won't be able to help you on the vocals. lol

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but the one who needs the least."

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@ABitRusty , @Fiddlerman -

I'd appreciate it if you guys could let me know if what I'm hearing is at least in the right Ballpark?

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@elcbk this is what i came up with as a framework... lot more to it bit its in the ballpark.  post #6 above

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Also... seems like 4th finger unison with high e string on the end of the main lick.  So start on your D string and play E G the B over on A string slide up to the D and back down to th E.  next time skip the slide up to D and hit the ope E and slide up your 4th finger until its unison with E.  seems like the whole thing repeata.

If you find different..again post here cuz its a cool song.  id like to know what you find

  

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@ABitRusty -

Thank you. 

Did you get a chance to try what I wrote? 

I'm still hearing this blues lick like starts here at 0:21 minutes:

 

 

 

@deano67 -

Are you making any headway with this?

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This tune must still be on my mind! 

I still LOVE the rhythm, but I've only fooled around playing the notes used for fiddle/mandolin/banjo - without any double stops. 

Found this "Old Corn Liquor" Lesson by Michael Ismerio" , but it's not the same tune - it's in the Key of G major, tuned GDgd! 

...just thought I'd mention it's possible use as a cool juxtaposition, but in standard tuning.

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old Corn Liquor   thats an awesome track!   you need to start a topic with just it @elcbk!!  i have not heard that before. l like Jim Thomas's playing/singing there but am not familiar with him..   but looking at the picture i think this maybe the getleman Rhiannan Giddens was speaking of the Feb 13th rosin the bow podcast.

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@ABitRusty -

Did you mean Joe Thompson?  Go for it! 

I didn't want to make too much out of it.  To be honest, of all the genres, I'm rarely attracted to any bluegrass or old time tunes... but do find myself favoring the bluzy aspect of Steeldriver's "Good Corn Liquor".

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