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@Fiddlerman -
What kind of coffee did you have before making this tutorial?
I WANT SOME! (lol)
This thread got side-tracked a couple times, but it's worth reviving!
AND, the Chubby Wise version (in post #56) is WILD!
Orange Blossom Special - Fiddlerman Tutorial
Here's a little inspiration ON THE CELLO - with John Haines-Eitzen!
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@Scrap This link might help. I think there is also a link in this tutorial to YouTube tutorial of Eric Christopher’s double-shuffle bowing.Part One
https://ericchristopher.net/2012/test/
Part Two
So strange... ran across Eric Christopher's take on Micing the Fiddle, just 2 days ago!
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Fiddlerman said
I may find some time in the future to jot down the notes, but I have a feeling there are plenty available.
I've just discovered this thread. Haven't read any of it yet. I looked around for versions of the piece a few years back and found a couple, in very different keys, neither especially convincing, so I'll trawl this thread for more useful information.
Found them - they are both in A, but very different intros and rhythms. This jpeg is probably the worse of the two
And the attached pdf is probably the better of the two.
Yeah, I think a formal official version of it is required (the pdf may be such a thing already) - bluegrass players, even when they are as good as Michael Cleveland, tend to play ex tempore a lot, and add in a lot of improvised passages, sometimes too many, to the extent of monotony at times.
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@Gordon Shumway -
I think you'll drive yourself crazy if you expect to play this while readying the sheet music. 🤣
Besides the Fiddlerman Tutorial (which is also super great to get you get you in the mood), Red Desert Violin has 8 more detailed tutorials + one performance video for learning "Orange Blossom Special".
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From The Singing Cowboys Guide:
Particularly noteworthy is fiddler Lawrence Wiseman, who had zinged his way through a couple of hot duets ("Fiddle And Guitar Runnin' Wild" and "Playing Around") with guitarist Leroy Johnson, really zippy stuff that owed as much to Eddie Lang and Joe Venuti as to Bob Wills and his crew. Hurdt wrote a bunch of ersatz cowboy tunes, but played 'em with a wild jazz undertone; likewise he and the band played a lot of Delmore Brothers-style hillbilly blues, but they used the formula's simple sound as a platform for soloists to improvise.
On tunes like "Rhythm In E" and the dazzling "Guitar Rag" the guitar work is amazing for the time; Wiseman's often-impatient fiddling takes over on "Blue Skies Above" and "The Old Gulf Coast," as well as the album's most historic track, "Train Special," which was actually the first commercially released version of the fabled "Orange Blossom Special," a tune that Wiseman learned from its composer.
Randy Noles wrote 2 books about Ervin Rouse & The Orange Blossom Special. Has anyone read one of them?
...this tune is on my list, just not the highest priority - I'll get to it eventually.
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ELCBK said
I'm also not particularly attracted to Michael Cleveland's, John Hartford's, or the Charlie Daniels band versions, and Doug Kershaw's version is too painfully drawn out (for me).
Yes, although I admire Cleveland, his and others' solos/versions of such things as OBS are very much in the realms of rock'n'roll style glory-seeking - over-long, unstructured, arhythmic, meandering solos by guitarists or drummers*.
* joke. Explorers in the jungle can hear drums: -
Guide: We must be wary of these drums. At the moment it is fine as long as they don't stop.
Explorer: What happens if they stop?
Guide: bass solo
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