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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/db/02/f2/db02f2b157a83a0b7d892c713f6eac23.jpg@Fiddlerman - 

What kind of coffee did you have before making this tutorial? 

I WANT SOME! (lol)

This thread got side-tracked a couple times, but it's worth reviving! 

AND, the Chubby Wise version (in post #56) is WILD! 

Orange Blossom Special - Fiddlerman Tutorial

 

Here's a little inspiration ON THE CELLO - with John Haines-Eitzen! 

 

 

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@Scrap This link might help. I think there is also a link in this tutorial to YouTube tutorial of Eric Christopher’s double-shuffle bowing.

Part One

https://ericchristopher.net/2012/test/

Part Two

https://ericchristopher.net/20.....l_part2/ 

https://media.istockphoto.com/illustrations/orange-and-blossom-illustration-id92724177?k=6&m=92724177&s=612x612&w=0&h=-gLac8yavN3qLX5S4B8tKvHwOt-n24a18oWB-iZUPXY=

 

So strange... ran across Eric Christopher's take on Micing the Fiddle, just 2 days ago!  

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 I may find some time in the future to jot down the notes, but I have a feeling there are plenty available. 

I've just discovered this thread. Haven't read any of it yet. I looked around for versions of the piece a few years back and found a couple, in very different keys, neither especially convincing, so I'll trawl this thread for more useful information.

Found them - they are both in A, but very different intros and rhythms. This jpeg is probably the worse of the two

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And the attached pdf is probably the better of the two.

Yeah, I think a formal official version of it is required (the pdf may be such a thing already) - bluegrass players, even when they are as good as Michael Cleveland, tend to play ex tempore a lot, and add in a lot of improvised passages, sometimes too many, to the extent of monotony at times.

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@Gordon Shumway -

I think you'll drive yourself crazy if you expect to play this while readying the sheet music. 🤣

Besides the Fiddlerman Tutorial (which is also super great to get you get you in the mood), Red Desert Violin has 8 more detailed tutorials + one performance video for learning "Orange Blossom Special".

Orange Blossom Special - Red Desert Violin Tutorials Playlist
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The point is not to play it from the music, but to learn it from the music, and to learn the official version before branching out into unofficial versions.

(besides, you're wrong - most of Vivaldi looks like that sheet music, lol)

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one of the wohlfhart studies is similar to that.

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Hadelich has recently done this piece. Here's his score

https://augustinhadelich.com/w.....1-2024.pdf

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@Gordon Shumway Can you play that? 🥴

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@Gordon Shumway Can you play that? 🥴

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Sure. Slowly.

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To me, that sheet music is extremely confusing. All that black on the white blows my mind when I see it. Always happens. I bet that if I saw Twinkle Twinkle Little Star really small and crunched so there was just a little white space and a lot of black notes, it would appear extremely difficult and confusing too.  

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The one attached (why?) to my post above: -

https://fiddlerman.com/wp-cont.....pecial.pdf

is authentic (except for the small dispute over who really wrote it) and simpler, and probably the one in Pierre's video. But I haven't done any work on any version yet.

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The sheet music attachment in your post #67. Looks really difficult to me. When there are a lot of black notes, I "panic", for lack of a better word. 😁

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Oh, just looked at the Fiddlerman version in your above post. That one blows my mind too. 

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idk... I'm not fond of Augustin Hadelich's version.  I didn't get a sense of the original tune for quite a while, the audience noticed, too (in the recording I heard)... just saying. 

I want to 'feel' like I'm going for a train ride!  Granted, there are probably many folks who never got near a steam locomotive - you'd hear not only several prevalent patterns of sound from the pistons/valves & steam/water vapor released, but also some from the rails (once the train started moving).  The whistle & bell are prominent features, too.  

From the Archives: 98 Years ago – Orange Blossom Special arrives in Naples on Jan. 7, 1927

 - little article in the Naples [Florida] Daily News. 

I'm also not particularly attracted to Michael Cleveland's, John Hartford's, or the Charlie Daniels band versions, and Doug Kershaw's version is too painfully drawn out (for me).  I do like Paul Warren's (Foggy Mountain Boys), Cubby Wise's (Bill Monroe's Band) & Roy Clark's version I've heard.  The video of Vassar Clements (in post #46) was fun to watch.

I'm sure everyone has their own personal favorites.  Once learned well, I think it would be a lot of fun to play!  

Anyone here have it as a regular part of your repertoire?

To me, sight-reading (and actually pulling this off) seems ridiculous unless time is spent making bluegrass/old-time bowing patterns & fast string crossings automatic.  I do think the Fiddlerman tutorial can definitely get ya going!  I've spent a little time with the 'Red Desert' tutorials (post #64) - they are step-by-step, you can't go wrong (I just haven't commited to taking enough time for this, being I'm more interested in other genres).  Nothing wrong with learning the simplest version first, then learn the typical riffs played along with it - Orange Blossom Special 20 licks (The Fiddle Channel). 

Look a-Yonder Comin’: “Orange Blossom Special” and Ervin Rouse

- little article (with score) about Ervin Rouse (born in North Calolina), he did copyright the tune, but I don't see where he recorded it. 

 

 

From The Singing Cowboys Guide:

Particularly noteworthy is fiddler Lawrence Wiseman, who had zinged his way through a couple of hot duets ("Fiddle And Guitar Runnin' Wild" and "Playing Around") with guitarist Leroy Johnson, really zippy stuff that owed as much to Eddie Lang and Joe Venuti as to Bob Wills and his crew. Hurdt wrote a bunch of ersatz cowboy tunes, but played 'em with a wild jazz undertone; likewise he and the band played a lot of Delmore Brothers-style hillbilly blues, but they used the formula's simple sound as a platform for soloists to improvise.

On tunes like "Rhythm In E" and the dazzling "Guitar Rag" the guitar work is amazing for the time; Wiseman's often-impatient fiddling takes over on "Blue Skies Above" and "The Old Gulf Coast," as well as the album's most historic track, "Train Special," which was actually the first commercially released version of the fabled "Orange Blossom Special," a tune that Wiseman learned from its composer.

 

Randy Noles wrote 2 books about Ervin Rouse & The Orange Blossom Special.  Has anyone read one of them?

  • Orange Blossom Boys: The Untold Story of Ervin T Rouse, Chubby Wise and the World's Most Famous Fiddle Tune (2002) 
  • Fiddler's Curse: The Untold Story of Ervin T. Rouse, Chubby Wise, Johnny Cash, and The Orange Blossom Special (2007) 

...this tune is on my list, just not the highest priority - I'll get to it eventually. 

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I'm also not particularly attracted to Michael Cleveland's, John Hartford's, or the Charlie Daniels band versions, and Doug Kershaw's version is too painfully drawn out (for me). 

  

Yes, although I admire Cleveland, his and others' solos/versions of such things as OBS are very much in the realms of rock'n'roll style glory-seeking - over-long, unstructured, arhythmic, meandering solos by guitarists or drummers*.

* joke. Explorers in the jungle can hear drums: -

Guide: We must be wary of these drums. At the moment it is fine as long as they don't stop.

Explorer: What happens if they stop?

Guide: bass solo

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Hey, Alf, love your sense of humor.

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