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Hunter's Chorus (part 2 of 3)
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This is the second half of the piece.  It picks up at the rest in Bar 20 and goes through the repeat and on to the end.  My pinky is still too stiff, yet in other videos I've recently done when playing other pieces, it's flexed and soft.  I guess it's the tension from the pizcatto causing it.  Or maybe not.

My piz stinks and there are times when I'm not connecting with the strings so the notes are either missing or are really soft or not piz at all.  I'm sure that with more time I'll get better but for now, it is what it is - moderately terrible.

I think my intonation is a lot better than it used to be.  Let me know if that's true or not.  I'm also working hard on keeping my hand frame open.  My left hand aches sometimes from my grip on the neck and that reminds me to open my wrist.  At least I'm aware of it now - I didn't used to be.  I'm still having to use a Irish bow hold, I just can't control the bow during the piz unless I choke up on the bow.

I'm also slurring the 2nd and 3rd notes of the triplet in Bars 31 and 32 and including the last note in the bar into the slur in order to get the correct tempo for the "trumpets" of the hunt.  It's not scored that way, but that's the way I'm doing it.  It seems to work and I can get the proper emphasis on the first and last notes.  You can see me do it if you watch for it, it's obvious.

 

I should have had this video up over a week ago but I had to take a couple of weeks off after I strained my left elbow and then got tendonitis in it.  I'm still having issues with stiffness and soreness in it which is cutting my practice time in half.  The doc says I'll heal but I still haven't fully recovered after smashing my hand and fingers back in January.  The stiffness is definitely affecting my playing too, I can't get the violin comfortable on my shoulder and it seems to need to be adjusted every day to a different position or I can't play at all.

 

Anyway, comments welcome no matter how brutal:

 

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Your intonation is getting better, thats the truth, as is your bowing. 

I may have said before to you, that one of the main parts of playing is relaxation, went through all the same things as you are going through, stifness, pain all the rest, I actually got a lot of migraine at first because of neck stifness  pressing hard with my chin on the rest, and stiff shoulders as well as back and they are all down to relaxation, or lack of, which is extremely difficult as you are finding out.

Holding a violin and getting used to the way your bow arm has to move are totally alien movements which go against the human frame, and when taken into account with everything else that you have to think about is a few of the reasons why violin and viola are arguably the hardest instrument on the planet, if you could loosen your bow arm elbow you would find it really helps, you have to have it working like a pivot, and let your arms relax, I know quite well that this is a lot easier said than done. You also have to use virtually no pressure at all in your left hand, you dont grip the neck, in fact you dont really hold it at all. Finding the balance between right arm mobility and left hand freeness seem almost impossible, but will come with time. In my opinion you are doing extremely well, the improvement from when you started is quite plain to see for anyone, and you should be pleased with yourself. Thats the truth.

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@RDP Your intonation is sounding much better.  Stiffness will definitely impact your playing. Better to reduce your practice time than to strain.  

Based on what you talk about, here are a few things to note:

Pizzicato is plucking the string with the finger.  In this piece, there are accents (this symbol > ) and dotted notes that are staccato, but no pizzicato. 

Here’s an explanation of how staccato works (first 3 minutes of video):

Triplets – there are no triplets in this piece. An 8th note followed by two 16th notes (or vice versa) are not triplets.  Within a triplet, the timing of each of the 3 notes are equal—that is, the 3 notes are given equal value for the beat.  In the case of the 3 note series in this piece (8th note + two 16 notes, & two 16 notes + 8th note), these are not played the same as a triplet.  Two 16th notes equal one 8th note as far as timing, so the 8th note last as long as the two 16th notes put together.       

Doree Huneven does a good job breaking down the phrases in this piece, showing the accents & the staccato:

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RDP

Intonation is better, with your injuries patients is required to get some relaxation in your arms and hands.

We're not a young as we use to be it going to take some time.

Mark

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SharonC said
@RDP Your intonation is sounding much better.  Stiffness will definitely impact your playing. Better to reduce your practice time than to strain.  

Based on what you talk about, here are a few things to note:

Pizzicato is plucking the string with the finger.  In this piece, there are accents (this symbol > ) and dotted notes that are staccato, but no pizzicato. 

Here’s an explanation of how staccato works (first 3 minutes of video):

Triplets – there are no triplets in this piece. An 8th note followed by two 16th notes (or vice versa) are not triplets.  Within a triplet, the timing of each of the 3 notes are equal—that is, the 3 notes are given equal value for the beat.  In the case of the 3 note series in this piece (8th note + two 16 notes, & two 16 notes + 8th note), these are not played the same as a triplet.  Two 16th notes equal one 8th note as far as timing, so the 8th note last as long as the two 16th notes put together.       

Doree Huneven does a good job breaking down the phrases in this piece, showing the accents & the staccato:

  

Thank you.  I truly meant to say stacatto, I have no idea why I said pizcatto.

 

My musical lexicon is worse than my playing.  And that's saying something.

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