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Irv
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I live in a small town and when I started playing the violin I went to the library to see what they had for books on string instruments.  Well, not much.  I did see a book published in the 1970's (a precurser to the "Violin for Dummies" tome) that seemed to be for the parents of a violin student.  The thing that struck my eye was a full page photo of a violin body that had the ball ends of the violin strings sticking up from the tailpiece.  No caption accompanied the photo.  Was this a fad of the 1970's or was this an error that made its way to publication?  I can see a bunch of dads proudly stringing up violins in this manner without a care to the world.

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Were the strings above or below the tailpiece?  Below would be a problem.  Above would indicate a novel method of attachment.  I'm interested in a pic.

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Strings were below the tailpiece.  I will try to take a picture when at the library.  

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January 18, 2018 - 1:27 pm
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@Irv - Interesting. I was not able to find anything like that. If you ever see it again please take a picture and share it.

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In this age of smart phones that take pictures with massive file sizes, is there any way to reduce the file size?  My computer really bogs down when I come to some pictures on this forum and I don't want to do this to anyone else.

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January 18, 2018 - 5:35 pm
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Many ways. What OS are you using?

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On the computer, Mac OS X.  I do have a new iPad and looked at a video on Youtube which stated that if I made an email to myself, and attached the photo to the email, I would be able to size the photo.  I am assuming that file size would somewhat equate to photo size.  

In a book I am currently reading called "The Violin Explained," it was stated that the fret on the tail piece was necessary to prevent the strings from buzzing.  Obviously, if the strings left from the underside of the tailpiece, no fret would be available so that in itself would cause a problem.

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Look into image compression 🙂 Most image handling software that can save files allows you to do it to some extent (by setting a quality level lower than 100% in the options when saving the file), regardless of OS, but there are also several online tools for it as well as specialized software.

Btw, we're not talking about compressed archives (like zip files) here, rather causing a 'loss of quality' in the image to drastically reduce its file-size. In reality most of the time that loss of quality won't be noticeable by the naked eye, unless the original image was really high quality and you actually zoom into it or you want to compress it an unreasonable amount aiming for a really small file, so it's safe to do. 

If done properly.. you can roughly reduce the file-size of a ~3MB photo down to 3-400KB, while keeping the original picture size (if you want to) and there still wouldn't be a loss of quality so significant that it would be bothering in any way. 

Here's an example: Made a picture of the back of my violin with my phone.. it resulted in a rougly 3.5MB file: https://drive.google.com/open?.....zXeHmAgjE9

I compressed it so that it loses roughly half of its quality, but kept the original scale: https://drive.google.com/open?.....Ft02r2HTAi it's now only 500KB, but it's still not bad to look at 🙂 

Now.. because the image is actually too large for the screen anyway.. I can also scale it down to be 30% of the original.. while doing the image compression at the same time resulting in a still good-to-look-at file that I can simply upload here as it's merely 85KB 🙂 (Edit: it WAS 85KB, but apparently the site adds some information to it when uploaded making it 92, if I re-download it it's still larger than the one I uploaded so it's not a counting issue haha) 

Hope this helps

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I found that when I did a "save as" with a photo, a slider bar came up so that I could regulate image quality, so that is solved.  Now my problem is in finding the book.  It was out when I went to the library to photograph it.

So I found another tail piece that acts in a similar manner.  There are "Togaman GuitarViols" videos on Youtube.  He was being coy on exactly how the strings were attached on the Guitar Viol, but I caught a glimpse of it at about 30 seconds into the following video "Workbench Blog Acoustic Guitar Viol (bowed guitar) in progress 12/11/08."  Mr. Yikes would be very interested in that video, I would guess.

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Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.         —Frank Zappa

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