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steveduf
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January 13, 2019 - 12:06 pm
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Picked up this violin that will be a challenge to say the least.  

The repairs made to it are scary.

The neck is broken loose and wedged.

The homemade peg is awesome to say the least.

The tailpiece was rigged after the holes tore out.

And then there’s the bow.  Glued and wrapped and coated with more glue

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January 13, 2019 - 12:15 pm
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OMG, @steveduf, you should have us voting on our favorite repair:

- The bow tip mummy wrapping
- The tailpiece gun trigger
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- The kitchen spoon peg.

Seriously, if you get this poor lad fixed up, I do truly want to see the results!

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January 13, 2019 - 12:20 pm
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Holy Smoke @steveduf - and I thought I liked a challenge.... hats_off

I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh - guntohead.JPG

Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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I had an anxious moment, thinking that bocaholly’s recent trek into diy went south.  

Very interesting adaptation of a baroque tailpiece.  Looks like fingerboard was wedged for more projection (that repair looks decent).  A spline joint down the center of the bow head and the insertion of a thin slice of ebony (or similar) should correct the bow.  

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January 13, 2019 - 1:36 pm
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Is that pic with the blurry bow tip already reattached?

On other fronts, that mosaic makes me think our violins could be distant cousins. I wonder how many regions produced that kind of simple inlay. Was it done everywhere at the time or only in certain locations?

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It’s attached but needs a spline for strength

this is our other  mosaic

not sure of the background of these

 

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Steve, an idea for you.  Harbor Freight makes a saw blade sharpener that takes about a 4 inch diameter diamond blade.  I purchased a few “scratch and dent” examples for $20 each.  If you replaced the blade with a thin metal cutting blade with fine teeth, it would be fairly easy to make a bow head holding jig for the cut.

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Tore the old girl down last night, the top was repaired badly. 

The top is hand carved, you can see the gouge marks,  the bass bar is carved as one piece with the top. It is actually quite rough looking.  There are only two corner blocks.

You can see where no one cleaned up the old glue that oozed after putting it back together.

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great improvement on the outside of the C bouts... impressed.

That sound post crack patch is scary. 

Exciting to watch what you're doing. Thanks for sharing the evolution (hint, hint, please keep us in the picture 🙂

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Hi bocaholly.  The patch is too low on the bout to involve the sound post (which is situated approximately midpoint on the f holes).  Cleats are typically used because they have less mass.  The current patch is a rather useless repair since the wood grain is running parallel with that of the plate (one split will force the other to accompany it in defeat).  

I have heard of, but never seen an example, of the bass rib carved from the same piece of wood with the front plate.  That is the way violins were made “back in the day” when good wood was plentiful and time had little relevance.

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Irv said
Hi bocaholly.  The patch is too low on the bout to involve the sound post (which is situated approximately midpoint on the f holes).  

Stand correctedfacepalm Will beef up on my violin geography. Next thing you know, I'm going to be stringing my violin like this:
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bocaholly said 
Stand correctedfacepalm Will beef up on my violin geography. Next thing you know, I'm going to be stringing my violin like this: