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Looking for a source for “rope” trim
Picked up another mosaic
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bocaholly
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February 28, 2019 - 5:29 pm
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DIY badge... yay... now I can comment with confidence on how well @steveduf's rope trim violin is cleaning up. What a difference. That is going to be one adorable violin once you've found a good solution for the rope trim.

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February 28, 2019 - 6:24 pm
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Of course, one could this hideous koa guitar for $300 and strip it of binding.32C0FE05-D597-4D0E-A43B-E191197338A9.jpeg

Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal. —Earl Nightingale.

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February 28, 2019 - 9:56 pm
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Will this work for you?57C31196-8646-432D-BC61-21079DB16824.jpeg

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March 3, 2019 - 5:55 pm
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Going to order a jujube trim set...09D19E4E-C6C2-45FA-A5B1-1FEDE7F22352.pngImage EnlargerCEE2F3B3-29BC-4A28-B636-81C69E7CF1AF.jpegImage EnlargerC9B82F12-0697-4E5D-A4C4-A8B0193ABF75.pngImage EnlargerFF0546DC-328B-4FA4-B885-32E108745E1D.jpegImage Enlarger

thinking of more the first or last, mainly for color... any opinions?

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March 3, 2019 - 10:46 pm
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Here's one gal's opinion:

I'd steer away from patterns (carved or otherwise) on the fittings since there's already plenty on the violin back and edging. 

You say you prefer the first and last options for color. Maybe it's hard to tell from the photos but it looks like the violin is less dark brownish-red than those prefered fittings  and more mellow yellow-orange-brown since you cleaned it up. 

What ever you choose, it's a looker!

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March 3, 2019 - 10:51 pm
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Steve,

For what its worth I like the last set best, especially if is going on a mosaic fiddle.

 

Mark   

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

Albert Sammons

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I think I have your violin's sibling. At least now I know where to get that trim, or something similar. 

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https://shop.rall-online.net/e.....D=19064643

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Its even made in Germany... Seems a fitting fitting befitting of a German trade violin.

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March 5, 2019 - 6:04 am
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I wonder if they ship to USA

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@steveduf .  I think that you are looking for a 45 degree angle cut on the side of the blocks.  Those look to be 90 degrees.  It is interesting that they appear to space two blocks of each color in the sequence.  Perhaps it makes bending easier?

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March 5, 2019 - 9:21 am
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@Irv 

yeah

i think I need to make my own, i like your idea,I’m going to use the small saw to make my toothpicks and the fret to cut the individual pieces.  I was just hoping to save some time.

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Eat plenty of carrots (for your eyes) and go for it.

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March 6, 2019 - 10:58 pm
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Another mosaic with rope trim32F5A275-3B0D-4821-B7E0-177C9C30F7BE.jpegImage EnlargerD82B004E-A4A2-41FF-8C76-CC82EAAB4645.jpegImage Enlarger

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March 7, 2019 - 9:16 am
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steveduf said
Another mosaic with rope trim32F5A275-3B0D-4821-B7E0-177C9C30F7BE.jpegImage EnlargerD82B004E-A4A2-41FF-8C76-CC82EAAB4645.jpegImage Enlarger  

There's a sears catalogue page in those old catalogue books that show these violins. I'm pretty sure one company was 'mass producing them' in Germany. They all have the same trim and everything as well as they all seem to not have corner blocks, does yours have its bassbar carved out from the top plate as well?

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Some of the violins once offered in Sears catalogs for a few dollars now demands several thousands of dollars.  

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The last one I pictured I do not own,  the violin I started this post with I haven’t checked to see if the bass bar is part of the top or glued in place, the one that I repaired the mosaic on that I am waiting for my new fingerboard is one piece integrated.

this is my third mosaic, and I haven’t checked it either.   I will try and check them tonight.

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I just noticed that the one that I just posted pictures of and the “rattle” one have the same pattern and fingerboard.

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Batto said

There's a sears catalogue page in those old catalogue books that show these violins. I'm pretty sure one company was 'mass producing them' in Germany. They all have the same trim and everything as well as they all seem to not have corner blocks, does yours have its bassbar carved out from the top plate as well?  

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Some of the violins once offered in Sears catalogs for a few dollars now demands several thousands of dollars.    

This one went down for 525.00

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So I spent some time today working on the rope.  Took some maple and walnut and ripped them into “matchsticks”.  I used a caliper to measure and gauge the size.  Sanded each stick and glued four of them together.  Each one measures 1/10 th of an inch on the diagonal or @.0707” on the flat.   I picked on a smaller area that was missing 8 segments for the first area to attempt.  Cut, glued, filed, sanded, stained and one light coat of varnish.

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@steveduf and others.  I see that you have incorporated the “toy table saw” suggestion.  I trust that you are using an upgraded blade, since the one that came with mine was awful.  

Did you ever sort out your issue with the canopy glue order?  I am finding new uses for the stuff all the time.  I think that it would be perfect for your current effort.

Wonderful repair on that old instrument.

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