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Stringys struggle, or murdering mozart
Learning a little Night music
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Stringy,

Great progress, 

 

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Mozart bores me for some reason.  I don't know if it's because it was overplayed when I was young, but I really flatline in the enthusiasm dept when it comes to his music.

I do think you're leaving the realm of the beginners and it gives me something to look forward to in a few more years.

 

Might I suggest you look at Bach's Brandenberg Concerto No. 3 once you get this Mozart piece down.  It's fast enough to match any jig and can be done solo.  (With a background tape.  Otherwise you're going to have to figure out how to swap from first violin to second and back as necessary.)

Also, when busking, listeners like to hear stuff they're familiar with.  Classical music in the US doesn't go over as well as show tunes and top hits.  That doesn't mean classical won't fly, it just means you have to choose pieces which mimic modern music.

Bach's Brandenberg No. 3 is one because it can get toes tapping.  Meditation from Thais is another because it sounds like a love song.  Offenbach's Tales of Hoffman, Barcolle is a 3rd but there are others out there.

No one wants to hear a busker playing Paganini's Caprice 24 so you have to pick and choose based on how close what you play is to the target genre of what people like.  Failing to do that means that your audience will walk around the corner to listen to, clap for, and give money to, someone playing something they recognize even if poorly done.

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Thanks Mark, slow but sure thats the way.

RDP, I am going to take a look at the Bach you mention.

Totally agree about what most people want to hear, dont know if you ever saw the vid I posted with the busker from Chester in the UK not far from where I live. He was dressed like a clown, stood on a tightrope on one leg and was playing Irish jigs, people loved it. I was most amazed how long he went on for, he was up there about two hours, dont know how he did it.

I am doing the Mozart one because I wanted to prove to myself I could do it, I do actually like that tune, but If I am honest, when I am driving, for instance, I dont have any classical music at all playing, its usually the Ramones believe it or not or Bowie, or maybe Stone Roses.

Thanks for checking out my post and for the idea of the Bach.

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I understand the reason behind doing the Mozart piece, it's about proving your competence and ability to play.  From your videos you obviously have the capability to play it.

 

Not too long ago I made a post about recommendations for getting a CD of classical music to play in the car.  I did buy a set of 4 CD's (50 Greatest Pieces of Classical Music).  Whenever I'm out of range of my local radio station, I punch up the CD player.  Otherwise, it's always rock and roll.  The classical CD's opened my eyes to the fact that there's a lot more enjoyable stuff out there than the "Christmas music" or "overplayed bastions of classical like the 1812 Overture" that get played by everyone.  Some of it is seriously beautiful to listen to and yet I have to check the back of the CD case to learn the name of the composer as well as the piece because no one ever seems to play those.  The local "classical music" station in LA doesn't even play them, which seems weird to me but explains why I've never heard of them.

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I don't have much against Mozart. I've got all of Serkin's piano concertos, but I don't listen to them (ditto for half a dozen symphonies). I like the opera highlight CDs and I'm not afraid to admit it.

When you are a wind player, a concerto is de rigueur when you are at certain level. But I don't know if I want to play any of his violin concertos. I'm not that familiar with them yet - got Grumiaux's recording of them. I'd like to sort them out and think about them first - they were all written when he was 19 and they contain some immaturities, imo. That he was a child prodigy is mythical to some extent - early mss contain corrections and alterations made by his father.

Don't know much about the chamber music though.

Goossens' 1933 recording of the oboe quartet is still the best. I heard it on Radio 3 in 1978 and didn't get around to buying it until this year!

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Getting there, slow but sure

https://youtu.be/I-SbhRCXAFw

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Gordon Shumway said
Mozart...I don't know if I want to play any of his violin concertos.... they were all written when he was 19 and they contain some immaturities, imo. That he was a child prodigy is mythical to some extent - early mss contain corrections and alterations made by his father.  

If I come across as arrogant here, I should explain - Mozart wrote his violin concertos when he was 19, but Mendelssohn wrote music just as mature when he was 16 (we played something or other of his in our string orchestra last year). It's just that we don't have a Mendelssohn myth industry.

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Wow. That was definitely the "good" from your, "For good or ill". 

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Thanks mouse, I am starting on the second part now that I have the first bit memorised, and also start adding the trills and such like. Second part shouldnt be too tricky as a lot of it is like the first bit. Certainly good fun and good practice.

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@Fiddlerman You can't view it? I just watched it again. Weird That has happened to me with other videos other people could watch. Not sure why that happens.

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I havent removed it, I will post it again here now

https://youtu.be/ep7V_DvOSGs

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let me know if you still cant see it, dont know why thats happened

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stringy said
let me know if you still cant see it, dont know why thats happened

It's all good now. Must have been a temporary issue. Thanks 

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Brilliant stringy you must be happy with that !! 👍👍👍👍👍👍

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You know me Katie, never happy with anything I play, that one could be a lot better.

In bits its too slow, and in others to fast, and flat as well. Correct speed though comes once its firmly stuck in memory and  dont have to think about the notes. Intonation is an ongoing problem for everyone, thats what makes it enjoyable, if it was easy everybody would play fiddle, lol, as pleased as I can be though.;) Thanks for giving it a watch.

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@stringy - As always, fun to watch you branch out and try an infinite number of genres! Good job!

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coming right along with that @stringy! 

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@stringy  You're making good progress on that!  smile

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