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HAPPY to meet you here. I love this piece also. I am Toni.
Enjoy poking around...and feel free to join the project.
Cheers.
Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato
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Ren-Tin-10 said
New member here. I can hardly wait to hear the final results. This is arguably the coolest piece of classical music on the planet (pun intended)!Will be poking through some of the forums as I have time. See ya around!
Cheers,
Jim (a.k.a. the "10-man")
Happy to have you here. Are you going to be participating in the project? We need all the help we can get if we are going to get 100 submissions 
If you feel like it, give us an introduction here:
https://fiddlerman.com/forum/i.....-yourself/
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We now have 8 players and 16 parts.
Thanks to both Robin and Robyn for their latest submissions. Great work from both of you.
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Finally got v2 after a minor setback! It's been sprent ( is there a past tense of "to sprend" - who knows... ) as an .mp4 Let me know if there are any issues with it (format, compatibility wise). Also, left the EV "plain" - once you add FX kinda difficult to remove - so left it as it was.
Cheers,
Bill
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Congrats Bill. How exciting. I am almost ready to do something. I have a jam session tomorrow night and I will get some tips on the timing.. if so I should be able to record and post next week. Fingers crossed.
Yay.. we are doing
it.
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I'm waiting
Keep em coming everyone!!!
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Ugh, I hate that I am just not feeling it! I had started V4 even because that looked the easiest to me. But no. Any advice? Why did you pick the part that you did? Help. I want to be part of something that is going to be so awesome.
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@Georganne I did a shot at V2. Here's a number of things that troubled me -
(1) Unlike the lead part, the "tune" is unrecognizable to me (well, after about 70 practice attempts, I guess I "know it well enough by now")
(2) I generally play be ear.
(3) As a struggling sight reader, and using both the sheet and click track, and keeping an eye on my fingering (I found the notes close to the nut Bb, Eb etc difficult) all became too much to cope with at once.
A different approach was needed.
I made a midi file of the part, at 76bpm, played it back, and as it was playing, recorded it as a .wav file. I took THAT into audacity, matched it up to FM's click-track - and played THAT combined audio (click and V2 part) back while recording my feeble attempts against it.
Because I could hear the notes, and the click, I got somewhere close to a reasonable pass at it. I could immediately tell if ( more like when ) my intonation and / or timing was out. Oddly, as a by-product of this, I had the sheet in front of me as well, but I didn't have to "concentrate" on it anything like as much - and I'm now a bit closer to basic sight reading !
There yah go.... I don't feel as if it was cheating in the slightest !
Bill
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Oh yea that sounds interesting. Very smart. I can see how it would help. Not cheating at all lol! But I don't know how to do those things or have those programs. Are you doing more then one part? You should try the first part now that you are getting the second part down and do both of them. I'm just feeling so uninspired then feel crummy for feeling so uninspired because it's such a magnificent piece and I love it so much. Guess I am just going to have to get my butt in gear and buckle down.
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LOL,
The reason I requested that whoever plays the first part should include another part is because in a big way, the first part is always easiest.
I should have made a video on all the parts to simplify for some of you but I am so busy and a big procrastinator. 
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Fiddlerman said
.... in a big way, the first part is always easiest.....
Interesting. When I first looked at the project, although I knew the "v1 melody line" pretty well already, I also knew my timing would be cr4p because I know the tune, I play by ear, and in SPITE of the sheet I would end up playing it from my heart rather than my head - and I just KNEW I would have to "fight against what my heart wanted to do" and obey the sheet.... SO...... I thought - let's do a different part - they "look easier - and I don't know the 'tune' so to speak"
Ha ha ha. Well, no guys, easier for me, they were not! For no specific reason, I picked V2 and it ended up being more difficult than v1 would have been for me. As you can tell from my earlier post (3 above) I had to take real special steps to get anywhere close, because I was now dealing with not only a "tune" I didn't know, but also my limited sight-reading skills.
I had to do something to "decouple" the multiple issues I was trying to deal with (fingering a new-to-me-scale, stumbling sight-reading, following the click-track, exhibiting the appropriate expression as the sheet indicates, etc etc etc)
Sooooo.... @Georganne and others struggling - not long after FM posted the project, being a poor sight reader ( that's ME I mean!!! ROFL ), I put together 5 MIDI files - and posted them (link below) for folks that wanted to "play by ear" and have "something to play-against". The 5 files are
(1) All 4 violin parts together, and (2),(3),(4),(5) each violin part separately
They have little "expression" and indeed specifically are not intended to have ( I wasn't trying to craft a perfected MIDI sequence, just the notes as they should be in tone and beat - what YOU do when you play against them is what we WANT to hear... LOL). If they are helpful to you or anyone else (it sure ended up helping me - and was not what I originally intended them for - I just thought they'd be useful to the community!!!!), they are to be found at http://www.scourie.org.uk
My warning when originally posted, about using these files still stands - as posted on the site they ARE crafted to be 76bpm - but it can sometimes depend on what you use to listen to them - so if you choose to use them to play-against for a final take/submission you absolutely must ensure they (or better said, your performance) match FMs click track timing and not just the play-along MIDI file......
Well, that was the difficult part about the project for me. But boy, did I learn a lot - and it has nothing (directly) to do with violin. Because I have the other individual parts as well as .wav files (from the MIDI files posted) and mixed them down for practice purposes with my own live recorded v2) what I "got" from the project was a pretty good insight to the structure of orchestrated parts. How they harmonise, tonality-wise, how they "play with" and sometimes "play against" each other in timing, giving unexpected changes in rhythm (well, short-term) and draw "interest" into the overall piece. I have seriously learned a lot from this, and probably much more than you ever intended Pierre! So - thanks very much @Fiddlerman
Great project, more difficult than one might imagine for beginners like me, but wow - nothing comes easy - and if you are driven to achieve - DON'T HOLD BACK - JUST GO FOR IT FOLKS.... and if it is already easy for you - please don't hold back because it is too simple - add your contribution as well - I'm certain you won't be displeased by FM's final mix-down ! LOL
..sorry - it ran on - not posted much recently but have been following the forum posts ( work - WHAT'S THAT? - got in the way) and this was just a flow of thoughts from what is not much more than a 6-month-in-but-seriously-addicted player of violin
Completely off-topic - @Barry - man I have been following your issues - just drawing your attention to something "unexpected" I got from the project - I know - different topic man - just sort of feel my ramblings here may help in some way to "release you from the chains that bind you" with the violin at the moment - play on, for us Barry, please ! I sent an initial reply to your I-SUCK post - but - when I heard your current playing - dude - if I had been listening to that in my local bar - you'd have had a handshake from me and a big THUMBS UP and a FREE BEER OR TWO !!!!!!!!!! YEAH - I AM NOT kidding with you! Well done mate!
Bill ( still awestruck by the instrument, and long may it last )
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Oh very awesome. Thanks. That will help.
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@BillyG Thanks for the kind words
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Robyn.fnq said
Bring it on!
I'm finally back online, and I come back to see a new project, how exciting!
Better get my scale practise up to scratch for this one.
Oh dear ... I've had V1 printed for 5 mins and already I'm butchering it ... the last few bars are shifted just a tiny bit, but I think you've all heard my attempt at shifting just one note on the E string, and it's not pleasant. So I've dropped them an octave. Will probably be in trouble for that, but whatever happens I'll have something to work on and I always enjoy these projects.
Diane, just do some practise with the Bb scale and it will be fine.
Hi Robyn, ive been shifting the 3rd finger , last note in in bar 40 to first note in 41. (D to F). Dont know if that would help you
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TerryT said
Robyn.fnq said
Bring it on!
I'm finally back online, and I come back to see a new project, how exciting!
Better get my scale practise up to scratch for this one.
Oh dear ... I've had V1 printed for 5 mins and already I'm butchering it ... the last few bars are shifted just a tiny bit, but I think you've all heard my attempt at shifting just one note on the E string, and it's not pleasant. So I've dropped them an octave. Will probably be in trouble for that, but whatever happens I'll have something to work on and I always enjoy these projects.
Diane, just do some practise with the Bb scale and it will be fine.
Hi Robyn, ive been shifting the 3rd finger , last note in in bar 40 to first note in 41. (D to F). Dont know if that would help you
Thanks Terry, and yes, I tried that when you first suggested it, but it never happened. Then Pierre said (or did I misinterpret?) he wanted other parts, so I've done others instead. I've recorded all my different parts for my future reference, and enjoyed this journey immensely.
If you think you can, or you think you can't, you're probably right.
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MadBill said
.................I have seriously learned a lot from this, and probably much more than you ever intended Pierre! So - thanks very much @Fiddlerman ........
You are super welcome and I am very glad to hear it.
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Hi.!!!!! Im a new member here. ^^, I have just found out about this project last night on youtube because I used your canon project tutorial videos as my personal guide hehehe ^___^. Anyway, Jupiter is also one of my favorites and I was about to start learning it on my own but I think it would be more exciting to join (hoping Im not yet too late) in this beautiful project. Im not sure if I can play it decently as Ive been playing violin for 5 months only. But I promise I will definitely try my best.
I do have a question though, does it require first hand position only? If not, can you please tell me which part to shift and what position. Thank you 
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Hi Artemis,
I have only been playing for 5 months as well. For Violin one I use position shift for the last few bars, sometimes a combination of position 2 and 3, and sometimes only 3 (rightly or not), I have not settled on which yet. Violin 2,3,4, can be played at first position.
Someone will come along shortly and sort us both out.
An excellent free download I use all the time for checking tuning and intonation with fingered notes and showing fingering for scales etc. is Fiddlescales 2.0, recommended by someone on this site, (can not remember who), get it from Fiddlefork.com.
Gil.
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Welcome to the forum artemis.
We are very happy to have you both here and participating on the project.
If you are referring to the first violin part you have a choice. You don't really need to shift until bar 43.
However you can play the end in a lower octave by replacing measure 33 with measure 8 and continuing till the end of measure no 24.
The other three parts don't require shifts.
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Fiddlerman said
We now have 8 players and 16 parts.Thanks to both Robin and Robyn for their latest submissions. Great work from both of you.
@Fiddlerman,
Just wondering if there's been any more parts submitted since the last number update of 8 players and 16 parts?
Thanks
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