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"Cad é sin don té sin" - I love this fiddle tune but it wouldn't be the same without the lyrics/translation (and you're not going to get ME to record myself singing while I'm playing).

Lately, I've been playing it in Dmin along w/"Lilting Banshee" and maybe parts of some others.

https://thesession.org/tunes/12520

 

I'm sure you all have your own examples?

- Emily

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Darby the Driver..(bly's) was one we were pairing with lilting recently.  lilting banshee is popular and seems to be one of the first tunes taught locally ITM wise.  As far as vocal tunes star of county down, ragland road ( dawn of the day) and skye boat were being played.  Im sure more were vocal in origin they just weren't presented that way.

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GregW - Thank you! 

Yes, "Lilting Banshee" was one of the 1st songs I taught myself, but I can't believe I've never heard "Darby the Driver"!  That's definitely a great match.

No unforgettable lyrics, though?

 

- Emily

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GregW mentioned Star of the County Down.  I think this is one of the nicest arrangements I’ve heard—sisters playing duet fiddle & guitar:

 

ELCB, I think you mentioned Charlie Taylor in another post.  Here’s a good one for lyrics:

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ELCB said
GregW - Thank you! 

Yes, "Lilting Banshee" was one of the 1st songs I taught myself, but I can't believe I've never heard "Darby the Driver"!  That's definitely a great match.

No unforgettable lyrics, though?

 

- Emily

  

sorry not as far as I know but that doesnt mean a whole lot. 🙂  I just included for you to consider since you mentioned lilting.  Its also in a group setting here played in Ador I think or maybe its Em.  id have to ponder that part back with the fiddle..  Not that Dm is wrong or anything just sharing what goes on in my area for conversation.

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I'm pushing boundaries here but these lyrics ALWAYS put a smile on my face, "The Pot and Kettle" by the Rumjacks.  I need to become more intimate with double stops and chords so I can play this better than just picking through the basic notes...

SharonC - Yep, that's my fav Charlie Taylor song! 

I've loved the "Orthodox Celts" Live Rock Radio (Beograd) performance of "Star of the County Down", but Myanna & Cassia Harvey (VIOLA/CELLO) do a super fabulous version (no lyrics)!  This was a tune I was obsessed with learning when I first got my violin.

GregW - unfortunately, I don't expect I'll be getting out any time soon to even think of playing along with anyone else, so what Keys I play in is kind of a moot point, but glad to know what others are doing.

The Punk Smiley Smiley- Emily

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Emily @ELCBK Although not an old song as far as the lyrics go Mick Ryans lament is sung to the melody of The Gary Owen.  the song version was recorded by Tim Obrien on his Two Journeys album.  Gary Owen If not familar with the name is an old pub song that was adopted as a march tune.

banshee..yup valid point on the key selection and probably helps when practicing to play it in other keys.    

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Another simple tune/lyric relationship is "Dúlamán", which I just found out was derived from the "Cutting Ferns" strathspey.  I love how it's lyrics (gaelic) seem to have aesthetic sound properties just perfect for the music.  I remember thinking "this song MUST have a very rich, romantic story behind it".  I was so full of hope until I came across a translation... seaweed... Irish seaweed.

 

GregW - Great lyrics, Thank you!

I watched too many old westerns w/cavalry when I was a child, so I've loved "Garry Owen" ever since!  Probably 1 of the first tunes I pecked out on the family piano (a beautiful burl wood upright my Dad had rescued from a Black/Yellow paint job).

Also while growing up, I was lucky enough to be able to ride with probably the last Equestrian Drill Team (had enough people for 2 teams!) located anywhere within the surrounding states.  What an appropriate tune for our maneuvers...

 

If I can return to the "here and now" for a moment, HOW does anyone sing the lyrics to "The Rocky Road to Dublin" fast enough (without becoming tongue tied)?  I can barely play it fast enough let alone say any of those words!  Quite a journey.

 

Hmmm... a Scottish Strathspey about Irish Seaweed?paddy-smiley- Emily

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how bout this classic?

eh?

better from a pub band...but oh the novelty of this...:)

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GregW - Holy Moly Shocked SmileyThat opens a WHOLE NEW perspective on the relationship of tune/lyrics!

Quite an intriguing creation - have to send this to several people, now...

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- Emily

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I'm guilty of learning just the bare bones of quite a few tunes this past 14 months, slowly refining and adding complexity as I go.  So, for now, I'll have to share a video of "Raggle Taggle Gypsy" by the Chieftains - another tune that blossoms with the addition of it's lyrics.

 

The Dancing Cat Smiley- Emily

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 I had the old plank road cd back in the day but not this one.  guess its off to album gettin' place now.  

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@GregW -

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Want to thank you for helping me figure out the tunes or partial tune played in the breaks of "Raggle, Taggle Gypsy" by The Chieftains and "Star of The County Down" performed by The Orthodox Celts! 

Just slapped my forehead (could have had a V-iolin) - pretty sure "Musical Priest" is the break tune of "Star of The County Down", played by The Orthodox Celts. 

What do you think? 

For The Chieftain's break in "Raggle, Taggle Gypsy", first thought "Morrison's" then "Drowsy Maggie", but you are right - it's definitely "Congress Reel"! 

 

Now, I just need to make sure what I play in the breaks is the same key as I'm playing the main tunes and I'll be all set! (lol) 

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/0f/5b/3c/0f5b3ccaa0fa5b988a69a8d6d9a56dbf--boys-playing-violin.jpg

 

- Emily

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emily @ELCBK yup I agree musical priest.  heard that after you pointed out.  the only thing i could hear was maid behind bar b part.

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Trying to shake myself out of a depressed mood this morning. 

Needed something fun and quick to learn for the Fiddle, so dug this out for a laugh. 

Hmm Thinking Here Smiley

"Eileen Óg" (The Pride of Petravore) by The Craic Addicts.  Wouldn't be the same without at least hearing the lyrics in my head while I play it - love that SWING!   Sheet music for this at "thesession.org".

 

When I think of a fun lilting tune, "Téir Abhaile Riú" (Celtic Woman) comes to mind. 

 

Here's some great info on "Gaelic Mouth Music" - associated with "Lilting" tunes.

https://www.siliconglen.scot/c.....abeul.html

"The Bridies" have an actual lilting tune called "Lilting", but I REALLY like their "Fiery Fiddling" tune much better (sorry,no lyrics). 

@GregW - think you'll like this one, too!

 

Check out their other tunes on their YouTube site.

 

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Feeling MUCH better, now!

- Emily

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hmm lilting..not sure there.their firey fiddle is good.  reminds me of afto celt sound system..

as far as lilting...the little break in between tunes is ok on this one.  

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@GregW -

I Love Music Smiley

 

I must be losing my mind, because I think this would be a great backing track for something!

 

About "lilting tunes" - don't think I'm grasping the whole picture. 

Initially believed lilting tunes were just tunes swung a bit, using some dotted notes.  Now I'm thinking more along the lines a predecessor to skat jazz.  Been curious ever since I 1st heard mention in "Star of The County Down". 

ANYONE have better insight on this?

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...how many times have I lost my mind now?  

- Emily

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@elcbk i think your jazz reference is correct.   hmm...google...whats lilting...lol.  i seem to remember a video share documentary thing on here that was shared a while back that had a reference to it.  

"I must be losing my mind, because I think this would be a great backing track for something!

maybe the silver spear??? 😉  too funny

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