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Yet another Aly Bain/Phil Cunningham fiddle tune -
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BillyG
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September 18, 2019 - 8:33 am
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My local fiddle hero - Mr. Aly Bain (with friends) - just thought I'd share...

Now - THAT'S fiddling from 1:38 or so onwards.....  🙂

and of course this one as well - 

Enjoy !!!!

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September 18, 2019 - 9:08 am
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Thanks @Billyg ..we're you able to see that event live?  The Celtic colors concert.

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BillyG
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September 18, 2019 - 9:39 am
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@GregW - no I didn't, but I've seen Aly and Phil live on a number of occasions - first time was YEARS ago, when still a student - well - actually - no he wasn't with Phil then... it would have been with folks like Gerry Rafferty ( I remember that concert) - and he was also with some group I just can't recall the name of right now....  no matter... it'll come back to me....

Many years later, we had moved from close to the "Edinburgh circle" ( we lived in Dunfermline back then, so it was easy to get across the water to experience some culture in the big-smoke that is Edinburgh! ) to a village in the far north, and, oh about 12 years back now, I caught Aly and Phil at a local concert in a small local hall in Durness ( I guess the max capacity would have been short of 200 folks - but the place was mobbed and we were right at the front of the "stage" - ha - it was just a slightly raised platform at the back of the hall - and I could almost reach-out and touch their instruments! )

THAT was when I thought "Know what Bill - that darned instrument is for ME!!!!" LOL - although - it took me another 7 or so years to shake myself loose from the ties-of-work...  Musically wasted years....

So now - at give or take 5 years into playing, you can indirectly blame Aly Bain for the occasional tune I share...  ( Oh, and I "blame" @adimn as well - without whom and this site - I would never have progressed to the point I have !  LOL Pierre, ^5s NO BLAME AT ALL bro' - it's my Scottish sense of humour )

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Great Scots thats so cool to have been able to see him live! (  see what I did there wink)  I hope to be able to catch him live someday.

Cool story about your fiddle beginnings.  When I started guitar I was trying to learn fingerstyle stuff from the likes of Pat Kirtley, Al Petteway, Doug Young ( DVD and Book not lessons).  I made some progress but realized I really liked fiddle tunes.  Started trying to learn flat picking in an effort to join some jams ( fingerstyle doesn't really transfer well like that) and someone suggested listen to this tune and try and figure it out on the fretboard for yourself...so I listened to this fiddle player from a recording and got hooked on the tune (  the recorded version..was set to repeat on my mp3 list).  Thats when I decided Id rather learn fiddle tunes on fiddle.  So somewhere in all that I discovered my fiddle hero actually taught lessons about 40minutes away.  Got the courage to start and began taking lessons.

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BillyG
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September 18, 2019 - 11:13 am
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Yeah @GregW - me too - on guitar  - was my first instrument at about age 14 (well, apart from an old piano-keyed accordion my old man brought home for me when I was 7 or 8 because he had seen me tapping my foot to accordion and fiddle tunes on the radio - that was before we even had a television !!!! ).  But yes, on guitar I was always (and largely still to this day) finger-picking melody lines, and not really playing rhythm guitar, let alone down-in-the-dirt rock leads...  Yeah - well, for soloing you have to really bring "something of your own" into it - and with guitar and "where I was at the time in terms of playing ability" I found I could never really jam with others ( well, not "on the spot"- it would need time to work together, which we never could really arrange ).   

And to some extent, I find the same issue on fiddle - but admittedly, to a significantly lesser extent - maybe that's just with the passage of time and becoming more familiar, in general, with tune structures and timing... dunno dunno - but (well, for at least where I am in my playing journey) I do try to make my fiddle solos have a "bit of me" in them, a certain uniqueness, and not an "oh, it's just yet another take on such-and-such"

Yeah - your "fiddle hero" - I know precisely what you mean - it must be great to have an inspiration so near-by dancing and indeed, the ability to access one-to-one lessons, awesome ! devil-violin

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Thanks for sharing BillyG.  The fiddler is doing everything my teacher is telling me not to do right now LOL. Yet he is playing very well! Goes to show there's more than one way to do it.

In our sessions here I have come across much of the music I originally thought was all Irish but appears to be Scottish instead. I find I like much of the Scottish music and am so glad they " mix it up" the way they do. Many tunes thought to be Irish adopted in sessions are really Scottish tunes. The Scots have held their own and taught the Irish a thing or two.

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BillyG
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September 18, 2019 - 2:48 pm
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Indeed Tim @starise - there is almost always

"more than one way to do it" and "The fiddler is doing everything my teacher is telling me not to do right now LOL"...

Love it !

As a former tutor and mentor myself - not in music, but other disciplines - I have found that didactic-teaching-methods (which I avoided using, and preferentially chose a more 'student-centered-approach') , can have, in equal measure, both significant benefits and significant disadvantages. 

I say that (benefits and disadvantages of didactic methods) with no experience of being the student or recipient-of, say, a once a week 30 or 60 minute lesson,  and I "guess" that the "didactic teaching" method is - well - probably - what is largely used by those who make their living from doing that - and that's no criticism - it's really how they HAVE to do what they do, given the time-limited exposure they have to an individual student. 

As I say - not a criticism of tutors at all - I understand the position entirely, and the above ramblings on my thoughts about teaching methods were just triggered by your words !   It's just one of the many topics that interest me in general, and more specifically, how we, as adults, appear to learn in quite a different way from youngsters (and not just fiddle/violin)....

Yeah - up for discussion - for those who have a teacher - let's hear your thoughts.  There probably is a thread already dedicated to such a topic - well sort of - there is this link - https://fiddlerman.com/forum/t.....endations/  

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Fiddlerman
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September 18, 2019 - 9:01 pm
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Great tunes and playing Billy. Thanks for sharing.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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Thanks for your comments BillyG and thanks for sharing this great music!

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