I'm looking forward to a HUGE discussion, with many opinions, on this subject!
My Father was adamant, he HATED Jazz - period, end of discussion!
I had a hard time understanding why, because I loved my 1st exposure to Jazz in old film, e.g., ragtime syncopation, Cuban rhythms, Big Bands, Swing and Jazz Blues!
Who wouldn't want to get up and move their feet with Cary Grant and Constance Bennet in "Topper", as they party through 2 night clubs and a piano bar with 1 Jazz tune - Hoagy Carmichael's "Old Man Moon"?
Or, go for a stroll on a quiet afternoon and skip-step along to the sound of Jack Teagarden?
Or, just relax to the dreamy Gypsy Jazz of Django Reinhardt & Stéphane Grappelli?
And, where else could you find a more colorful, "Closer Walk With Thee", but at a New Orlean's funeral? Usually the slow march would be followed by a "Second Line" of a brighter, more joyous Jazz procession, for love & memory of the deceased.
I found out Jazz was also an "Improvisational Art Form" and being creative, I really wanted to embrace what many people rave about.
But, after listening to examples of: Model Jazz, Chamber Jazz, atonal Free/Avant-garde Jazz, Miles Davis and Chick Corea, etc...
I just never found any of those I enjoyed.
It's like pure Chaos to me! I already feel like my brain bounces around erratically, without listening to music that emulates it.🥴
I've been ridiculed for this later point of view in my past, not on the forum, yet.(lol) Also, been told something like, "pure Jazz is the only real music" and "you are just not sophisticated/educated enough to appreciate it", which may be true.
So, maybe this is the Jazz my Father hated so vehemently.
Still, there's no place I'd rather be on a Sunday, than having Brunch at the Commander's Palace, in New Orleans - enjoying stuffed quail, while musicians stroll through playing Jazz... lightly.
So, I'm open to all opinions in hopes of a better understanding.
Jazz, some I like, some, well, I don't like.
The above selections, I personally like, thank you both for posting them I'm enjoying listening to them.
I've heard also that "you are just not sophisticated/educated enough to appreciate it",
which may be true, here also, as I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, I'll gladly admit, how ever that statement, in my opinion is pure Hog wash.
I can appreciate the individuals ability on there instrument and there knowledge of the relative relationships the cords for a given progression,
But when they start playing outside of the box with no homage to the melody then I lose interest very fast, and some of the harmonic choices that they make are do discordant, well, is just not my cup of tea.
But to those who like it more power to them.
That's just my take on jazz and music in general.
Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.
I have to be in the mood for jazz, and I only like some of it.
Even the great saxophonists like Charlie Parker or John Coltrane I can take or leave.
I like Sun Ra, Miles Davis and Roland Kirk most of all. Occasionally Lol Coxhill or Albert Ayler.
Jazz violin? Yeah, Grappelli is fine. Reinhardt is said to have preferred Michel Warlop, but others say that this was because Reinhardt was homophobic.
I used to listen to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, but only their first album.
@Gordon Shumway -
...visualizing 1 of those wind-up monkey toys, clanging cymbals together?
Hilarious - all of the artists are individually listed as the composer of this piece and it sounds like it.
"The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band was created by a group of British art-school students in the 1960s. Combining elements of music hall, trad jazz and psychedelic pop with surreal humour and avant-garde art, the Bonzos came to the public attention through a 1968 ITV comedy show, Do Not Adjust Your Set." (YouTube description)
Had fun listening to their, "Look Out, There's a Monster Coming".
Thank you, Andrew - very entertaining!
I'm always redefining my understanding of music genres as I learn not only more about prominent characteristics/structure of the music, but also about it's origins and the communities that keep them alive. I figure the cultures that surround/birthed different music genres are relevant to how/why the music is played, maybe even more important to keep in mind if I'm changing the music to suit myself.
Adam Neely brought up a good point... if many people are lead to believe Jazz is something it isn't, what happens to the 'real thing'?
Does 'real' jazz get dismissed, die out? It's so easy to inadvertently influence MANY people on Social Media with inaccurate information!
Like usual, I learn a lot from Adam Neely videos. This recent one helped me understand more about genres - Jazz, in particular.
Is Laufey Jazz?