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maudmaud
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Hi! For those who know the Dancla studies, what do you think of my video, what should be done to improve it?
Thank you !!!

🎻since08.2019🎶

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Maudmaud, I know you asked for inout from those who know the studies, but I wanted to say, that was lovely. You look so relaxed and have such wonderfully smooth bowing and string crossings.

The Bumblebee Flies!

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😃😊 thank you @mouse !

This study is a preparation for the next study that I have to work on, and which is much more technical : Mazas study #1... So if it's good, I start the study of Mazas 🤪

🎻since08.2019🎶

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@maudmaud. i have that stuck in my head now..lol.   the opening few notes i think.  🙂  you sound great..vibrato is nice and i really like the tempo.  havent heard this before.  thanks for sharing.

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@ABitRusty 🤣 sorry lol 😅😅

Thanks for your opinion😊

🎻since08.2019🎶

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@maudmaud I know you are looking for help with spots people notice that might need help, and not just compliments, so I listened again a few times. Now, I am certainly not proficient on violin and I am not looking at your sheet music, but it sounds like some of the notes, when you lift the bow, sound chopped off. Maybe, double check the note and make sure you are holding those notes long enough. They sound abrupt. Maybe, that is the way they are supposed to be? It is mostly in that section you start with and repeats throughout. I know I chop off notes, a lot.

I also noticed some really nice dynamics. Nicely done. If I note anything else, again, just by hearing, no knowledge of the piece, I will let you know. This is by no means criticism, nothing to criticize. This is lovely.

Your violin has a lovely sound and you gave great posture.

The Bumblebee Flies!

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@maudmaud I used to play this etude often. I don't know why, but I haven't pulled out this book for quite a while. These Dancla etudes are nice because they are more like play music than just practicing technique. I like the number 3 because it feels very relaxing with no straining to reach higher registers.

You played it very well with expressing and very good intonation. Really enjoyed listening. You've encouraged me to go dig out the Dancla book :)

Thanks.

Bob in Lone Oak, Texas

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January 24, 2022 - 12:38 pm
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@mouse thank you I take note!!

@bob thank you too, glad to have motivated you to replay the Dancla studies 😄

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@maudmaud -

I think you sound and look GREAT! 

Your bow changes are Excellent. 

I believe this is also an exercise for using WHOLE bow strokes - maybe try to use a little more. 

 

I found a teacher that demonstrates this at ViolinExplorer Youtube Channel, here: 

Charles Dancla Violin Etude no. 3 (Op. 84)

You may find other demonstrations of exercises you plan to work on at ViolinExplorer.  

I hope this is helpful. 😊 

- Emily

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Coool, thank you Emily!😊

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@ELCBK thanks for the link to ViolinExplorer.

I've been using him for years and he is great. He has videos for almost all of the etudes that I used when taking lessons and still use now.

I noticed he now has a Patreon page as he mentions in some of his later videos, so since I have watched him and received feedback from him for so long, I decided to add my $5.00 a month to his page. Hope he keeps adding more.

Bob in Lone Oak, Texas

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maudmaud

Well played, 

I has not heard this before thanks for introducing me to it.

 

Mark

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

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Ditto Mark, lovely playing.

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I think I’m going to try this out.

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Cool @Katie M!👏

Thank you all.

My study dancla #3 has been validated, and the mazas #1 only half lol (but it's much more technical) ... so i continue the mazas study and i start the dancla #4

😁Go practice!

🎻since08.2019🎶

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I pulled out my Dancla book and have started playing though the etudes again. Nice stuff. One of my favorites is #6. Thanks again for the reminder.

Mazas #1 is one of the most difficult etudes in his opus 36 IMHO !!! The dynamics really test the player's bow control.  Slow pieces are so unforgiving dunno

Bob in Lone Oak, Texas

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I like Mazas 1 and 7. You can print them on two sides of A4 and they will last you quite a while. Kreutzer 1 is harder than Mazas 1.

Andrew

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Thanks for sharing your studies with us. You are doing very well.

Whenever you play an etude ,as an study, you need to determine what the etudes goals are. Some composers have a very clear and determined goal for each of their studies. Dancla not as much.

This is to me a bit of a fluency exercise. I personally, if I was working on this, would focus on smooth bowing, even rhythm, intonation, and not lease, dynamics.

Focus on starting very softly while maintaining the quality of sound and smoothness of bow change. The first part has mostly half note bow changes but a few times, 3 beats in a bow. With dynamics in mind, use what we call, "economy of the bow". A planned execution of the expression, dynamics, sound quality based on the amount of bow available.

Focus on the crescendo and diminuendo those two times (1st part) and almost disappear on bar 8 on the diminuendo. Pretend that the dynamics are colors, and your goal is to increase the depth/contrast of a painting.

There should be a big difference when you begin playing bar 17. Play loud but with smooth caressed bowing. This is probably why Dancla stopped the tied bowing from that point. Before bar 25, a big diminuendo. And so on and so on.....

So focus on the aspects of this etude that are key to eventual perfection.... 😁

Thanks again for putting yourself out there and asking for advice. This is how we get better. If you want, repost this video with our comments in mind. That will be interesting.

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@Fiddlerman Thank you so much!🙏👌

Yes, i'll make a better vidéo, as soin as possible 😊

🎻since08.2019🎶

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You're welcome. How's it going now with the piece?

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but the one who needs the least."

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