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Fingering Patterns
Are fingering patterns the only way to learn correctly? Is it a handicap to not think in fingering patterns?
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fiddlrgrrl

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March 8, 2015 - 4:19 pm
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I know what fingering patterns are, and I can "picture them on a fingerboard in my mind" if I have to, but I was never taught to "think in fingering patterns" and I wonder if accomplished violinists "think in fingering patterns" or just "know" where the next note is? 

If I'm playing a scale, I "know" whether the next note is a whole or a half step, but I don't "picture in my mind" dots on a fingerboard or anything like that.

Also I have played things by ear since around kindergarten (and now I'm 67) and since I know how the intervals of a particular scale are supposed to sound, I "hear" that in my head and my fingers come down accordingly.  (When my piano teacher realized why I always asked her to play a new assigned piece for me, she quit doing it...)

So I guess it's more descriptive to say I think in intervals, not fingering patterns.  But I thought I should ask, even at this late date (!) if I'm missing something crucial?

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Fingering patterns, I think of more as being for the muscle memory to work for developing more fluency.  Intervals and knowing what you're doing are good, but a lot of times, if you have to actually think of the intervals instead of just "and this part goes la-dee-ladeedada" it would be too slow.

Different stages of learning a piece, yeah, knowing intervals and etc are good when working it out and figuring out if a shift here will make the piece easier/better and leave your fingers in a good place for the next phrase (economy).  But when you have that pretty much figured out, getting the bits worked out as just a pattern your fingers have practised to be able to just do it and focus on the sound are what I think of as necessary to get it sounding "easy" and dig into the dynamics.

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Fingering patterns are great but when you get experienced there isn't any thinking going on anymore concerning the patterns. It comes automatically.

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