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I’m learning a piece at the moment where I have to play the fourth finger on the d string to play an a then come down to a g then an f# all in one bow. It sounds terrible as it’s a scramble to get my fingers out of the way of the next note. So basically I can get to the fourth finger but it’s a mission and that’s hard enough but then I find it really hard to get all my fingers in place and out of the way! After the f# I have to play a e on the next bow stroke which is fine but the f# isn’t in the way but it’s just awakward.

 

So I’m wondering if this is something I need to keep practicing slowly ?

 

I do think it’s a bit advanced for me but it’s in the music so I gotta do it !

 

Thanks all 😬

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katie m said
I’m learning a piece at the moment where I have to play the fourth finger on the d string to play an a then come down to a g then an f# all in one bow. It sounds terrible as it’s a scramble to get my fingers out of the way of the next note. So basically I can get to the fourth finger but it’s a mission and that’s hard enough but then I find it really hard to get all my fingers in place and out of the way! After the f# I have to play a e on the next bow stroke which is fine but the f# isn’t in the way but it’s just awakward.

 

So I’m wondering if this is something I need to keep practicing slowly ?

 

I do think it’s a bit advanced for me but it’s in the music so I gotta do it !

 

Thanks all 😬

  

whats the piece, and do you mean using the fourth finger to play all the notes  you mention. If not using the fourth finger for all the notes, its a matter of using the right shape for your hand, or frame as they are called, is it in the key of A major?

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Sad romance ! Yes in the key of a major.

Actually I’ve just realised I can keep all my fingers down as I play the bow stroke ! 

I think I need to look up the hand shapes! 

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This is what you need these patterns are one of the first things you should learn, makes everything else a lot easier,the reason I knew it was in A major was because I recognised the pattern, thats how useful this link is, dont underestimate the usefulness of practicing these.

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Thank you for this! One minute I think I know what I’m doing and the next I don’t !! 

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violins hard, no doubt about thats why not everyone plays it😁

Dont try to learn everything at once violin doesnt work like that, seriously, anyone who plays will tell you everything takes time, absolutely everything.  Even holding it is difficult, its almost like it was designed in every aspect to be awkward, its almost funny. 

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Ha ha yes it’s so ridiculously difficult it ends up being funny !! Oh well onwards and upwards!!

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All your hard work will be so rewarding

when your fingers start to do what is expected,

your bowing hand and arm start to sync,

and you actually start to hear the improvements! 

 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/21/9d/18219d74b9516c673a11effee5a9c8e1.png

 

Give yourself a pat on the back!

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Ah thank you !

I have gone back to the start of my Violin for Dummies book! Frare Jacques here I come ! It’s actually really nice to slow down and take the pressure off!

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Nothing wrong with challenging yourself.

Why not try a couple of fiddlermans beginners sheet music, he has tutorials to match as well. 

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Such a good idea! I’ve had a look and I’m going to do Sound of Silence. I am doing Romeo and Juliet by fiddlerman which I’m finding tough going but it’s definitely improved. Not sure how much of a beginner piece Romeo and Juliet is!! Thanks a lot !

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katie m said
Such a good idea! I’ve had a look and I’m going to do Sound of Silence. I am doing Romeo and Juliet by fiddlerman which I’m finding tough going but it’s definitely improved. Not sure how much of a beginner piece Romeo and Juliet is!! Thanks a lot !

  

Was going to say, just because a piece is labeled beginner, it doesnt mean its any less of a piece of music, and they still require practice of all the skills. ode to joy for instance by Beethoven only has a few notes and is a fantastic piece f music that would be classed beginner, ànd remember its the anthem of the European union, in fact it would be a good one for you to give a go, cant go wrong with beethoven

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I guess my best suggestion is to slow it down to the speed that you actually can manage. Don't worry about the all in one bow for now, then, pick up the speed little by little. See it as an etude for now and don't focus on the end result just yet. Good luck!!!

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That’s great advice thanks Fiddlerman  

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You're welcome. 😁

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