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Katie L
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January 21, 2021 - 2:01 pm
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Hi All,

So even though I’ve been playing for about 5 months I’m only just starting to learn about hand patterns! I’ve found some really good exercises and it’s not exactly going that well but I think in the long run it will really help me! Now the thing I don’t understand and I feel like this is going to sound completely nuts BUT I’ll ask anyway! I don’t understand how hand patterns are incorporated into the music. I get that when you are on a string and you go up and down there is the hand pattern but what about when you randomly go onto a string and play a note on that string or a few notes on that string? That’s not a hand pattern. So I’m thinking are the hand patterns a basic guide but now and again you get some random notes in between? 

Thanks for your patience 😂 

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January 21, 2021 - 2:06 pm
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I think you use the hand patterns as a general rule, but there are times when the pattern does not fir and you do have to break from it. Then you go back to it. The more you play a piece over and over, you remember the notes and patterns and variances. Then it becomes smooth.

That is where repetition of a piece and studying a piece comes in. That is what I think.

Vy the way, @Katie L, you are not sounding nuts. I find all your questions to be excellent questions. 

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January 21, 2021 - 2:27 pm
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Ahh that is brilliant , thank you Mouse for clearing that up 😀 I definitely feel that since joining the forum I am less alone in my violin playing ! I mean how can I ask my fella Dan who is knee deep in financial reports what he thinks hand patterns in the violin are all about ?? 

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January 21, 2021 - 2:34 pm
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I do cello more, but it is the same deal with hand patterns. I wasn’t filled in on them when beginning cello lessons and then they were just mentioned in passing with the last instructor. I am trying to use them, on my own. I do find that when I figure it out, or remember about them, in a piece, it is easier to move and keep intonation. If I can get it so it is just the natural thing to do, I think other things will be much easier to learn. So we are both in the same boat.

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January 21, 2021 - 3:22 pm
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Hand patterns are the shapes you use for scales, so for instance when you read a piece of music in say g which has  one sharp, you become familiar with the scale pattern which is a hand shape, for example I am learning  a piece in g at the moment and it slides up to 3 position on the e string, I know that g has one sharp but I dont need to think about it because the hand shape for g on the e string in third position is one finger, gap, two fingers together, gap, one finger, this gives a  bc  d,   I f it had been in d the shape would be one finger, gap, second finger, gap, third and fourth together,

a, b ,c sharp, d, so if I play in d using thae correct hand shape on the e string I dont have to remember to sharpen c, my hand is inthe correct shape, this is incredibly useful.

do you get the idea, and see the shapes, if you know the scale and the hand shape you dont have to constantly remember to sharpen or flatten certain notes, unless it specifically tells you to in the music, all scales use the same hand shapes, this is as simple as I can explain it

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January 21, 2021 - 3:30 pm
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Thanks both I totally get it !!

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katie m

He's does a really good job explaining hand patterns for stringed instruments 

 

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January 22, 2021 - 2:41 pm
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Thanks for posting! I’ve got two sheets of exercises to get my head around ! 

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