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Someone suggested Wohlfahrt to me a few months ago when I mentioned not knowing what or how to practice after loosing my teacher (and lacking money to pay for lessons) I have hardly practiced at all the last few months as I completely lost motivation and am also very tired and in a lot of pain due to stress. But the last couple of weeks I've felt more like practicing again and I've been trying to do Wohlfahrt( starting with 1-30) to get more efficient in 1st position. Teacher got me started on 3rd which I did spend some time on learning finger patterns, but I've chosen to focus on 1st as I believe that one should feel comfortable in first before jumping into 3rd. I think my teacher was more about enjoying playing songs than most efficient way of learning.
I've only gone through a few of the first ones when I discovered that on page 4 it says "In the second, third and seventh etudes the same bowings that were given for the first etude are to be used"
The bowing given being what? On the top of the first page, and on some other pages i noticed when scrolling through it, is 2 lines of notes showing staccato and legato. Is this the bowing mentioned? Am i supposed to memorize some kind of bowing pattern to apply to the etudes? Seem strange to me if that is so. Especially since it doesn't look like a fixed pattern either and I would have no idea how to apply it anyways. Also I do not understand when there are legato AND staccato markings on notes. I have very limited knowledge in this as I only had lessons for a year and my last lesson was in May.
So far I've only used these etudes to practice intonation and finger patterns, really feel like i need it after having played so little in a long time. Haven't paid too much attention to bowing with it as I never understood if there is supposed to be any particular technique applied to it.
Trying to learn on my own is hell for me. I am a very unorganized person in general, but even more so after stress made me sick. I am so lost with it. I'd be able to do it if there was a curriculum I could follow on what to learn next. Wishing I hadn't sold my piano and taken piano lessons instead. :S
Sorry if this was messy.
I really don't have a lot to add to this. My main thing is playing the violin should be fun and a way to relieve stress. It shouldn't be adding stress. When I need to relax I go and play a few songs. Practice should be fun too. Get your fundamentals in, work on intonation, and push yourself a little bit so you can grow.
I hope that you keep working on the violin and don't get too frustrated. I also hope that you stress level goes down as well as the pain you are experiencing.
To answer your question on the bowing, those etudes you're asking about list several different bowings at the top of the page. You are supposed to go through the etude using each one. They don't list them either so you memorize the pattern and probably so that they didn't have to have several pages with each pattern printed out. The bowings are something that eventually become second nature and really don't feel weird not having them printed out.
That said, maybe jumping back in with etudes isn't the right thing for you to be motivated at the moment. You can use learning fun tunes for the same purpose (getting comfortable in 1st position and intonation).
It depends on my mood what I personally find motivating. Some days just having fun playing tunes keeps me going, other days I need a good challenge, other days I just need my scales and a metronome clicking at me. Find what keeps it fun for you.
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@Bella86 there is a violin teacher in North Carolina that has recorded all of Book 1 of Wohlfahrt's 60 etudes and is currently working on recording book 2.
For many of the etudes he explains what the focus for the etude is and explains how to practice it.
He also is responsive to questions send to comments about each etude. Highly recommended.
If you're interested in Skype lessons, he also does that, but I don't know how that would work from North Carolina to Sweden
Also violinWiki has explanations of these etudes here:
Enjoy... etudes can be fun
Bob in Lone Oak, Texas
Oh it's not the playing that stress me out. Well it is, but that is because EVERYTHING in my life cause me stress right now as I am sick. Most likely an exhaustion syndrome, but we'll see what the doctor thinks on Monday..
At least I've felt like playing the last couple of weeks, it's just hard to do on my own.
That actually confused me more lol. But after looking at the violinwiki I think I get it. The bowings are suggestions and each bar is a separate pattern you can apply to the whole etude. As in, measure 1 is one pattern that would be repeated in every measure of the etude. Then measure 2 is another pattern that would be applied on its own. Is that correct?
Not the confusing thing I was thinking, that all those 14 measures of bowing are to be memorized at once and somehow applied in some odd way when the measures in the etudes are way more than 14.
I managed to find some videos on demonstrations and tutorials on some of the etudes and they are all played detaché, which is what I've been doing.
I actually prefer technical stuff. I absolutely hate playing simple tunes or simplifications of songs I do want to play. They either bore or frustrate me as I usually don't agree with the arrangements. What I want to play is all way too advanced and will be for a long time. So I find scales and technique much more fun to do.
Thank you for the links, I will check it out!
Online lessons is an option, but not for someone like me who absolutely refuse to be on live cam infront of anyone at all lol
There is another teacher at the school I was going to, but when money is a huge issue right now it's a no go. Hopefully I will be able to pay for at least a few lessons before they go on a break over summer. I live in a real shitty place for lessons on anything but guitar and piano for adults. Had I lived in southern Sweden, education would be everywhere.
Thanks for all your quick replies guys!
@Mouse If you read my post you should know that I do not have an instructor anymore nor the money for one.
We did start with a book, not suzuki thankfully. Some series of books made by a swede. We got through maybe a quarter of it, if even that, for lessons but after that she kept bringing me other stuff from various other sources. I don't know if it's because she thought I was progressing much faster than any of her other students. I did play through the whole book myself during christmas break the first semester. I have been thinking about getting the rest of the books but at the same time I feel like even book 2 might be too easy for me at this point. But basics are always good though and I'm sure it would bring up bowings or technique that my teacher never got around to. But money is still an issue for the time being.
I still really like doing scales. They are boring on a piano but fun on a violin lol. Etudes might not always sound the best but there is still something fun about them, maybe the technicality of the fingering. So far I don't find them that hard. Just take a bit of practice. Those low 1's that I'm not used to doing does give me some grief, but some repetition is all I need.
After my teacher got me started on 3rd position I got Heather Broadbents Mastering 3rd position book which is just finger patterns and scale exercises. I found them real fun to do. Especially when I started hitting those fifths right on the spot lol. But maybe I'm just weird.
I'm not completely starting over either. Playing has been irregular and sporadic the last 2-3 months but I've still played now and then which has been enough to keep my brain in check.
Anyway I was mostly just wanting info on the Wohlfahrt which I think I've gotten and understood now.