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Just go with what you have now and chalk it all up as experience. Even though it may seem to you that you have lost time and money Im sure you learned some useful info ..I wouldnt call it a total loss of time. Id play the violin now along with cello and not wait for lessons to start. Practice what you know and let the new instructor correct as needed. I doubt the time youll spend until then would just totally be wasted. I think an instrument not being played would be though.
You asked..thats just how I would look at that situation were I in your shoes given what youve written. Spend time recording a cello part..then play it back and record yourself playing violin to it. Rinse and repeat and have fun with it. My 2 cents. Hope its helpful.
I feel sorry for you. It makes me really upset on how unprofessional she seems. She might be a decent violinist, but she doesn't seem like much of a teacher.
However, on the topic. IMO every experience is valuable when it comes to learning a new instrument. Take it slow, separate the hands and work on them individually. I wouldn't stop playing until your next lesson, unless you're experience pain or discomfort. If you've been thought a wrong method of playing, so what, at least later you know for a certain that's the wrong way to do things. We all do wrong things on the path of learning, even when we have great teachers, that's how we learn.
'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.
I'm sorry you had a negative experience with a teacher. But it appears this has not extinguished your desires to learn, and that is the take away from this. I am very impressed and I have a great admiration for your ability to stick with this and not give up. There are plenty of stories of beginners who would have just quit under these circumstances. So keep playing!!!!!
Now as far as fingering is concerned, the idea of finger patterns is to create muscle memory so that each position you do not have to think about where your fingers go. They just do. So I would be sure to get the proper finger patterns and begin immediately building the muscle memory. From what I gather you have not been playing improperly for a very long time, so it is just a matter of building good habits and developing your muscle memory.
Not sure if you have other concerns or if you think there are other areas where you should focus but I would not be too worried. All of it is correctable.
Also, @HP is correct in that we all make mistakes during the learning process. The important thing is to keep working on them and NEVER give up!
Keep playing! It's amazing that you are learning 2 string instruments at the same time!
- Pete -
The thumb is supposed to basically have the cello neck resting sort of on the tip, not the flatter “palm” side of the thumb, like I was doing. It was never mentioned in lessons, and that is what was comfortable, so what I have always done. It is also opposite where the second finger is on the fingerboard.
Generally, the neck of the violin should rest on the pad of the thumb between the tip and first joint. This allows for the space between the bottom of the neck and the inside of your hand. You could rest the tip of the thumb on the neck of the violin, but it would avoid bending the thumb. Keep the thumb straight, except when necessary to reach high notes on the G and D strings. The thumb should generally be opposite the first finger in first position.
The thumb can move over towards the G or C string, keeping its “shape”, with the second finger if your hand is too small to “rock” over to the G and/or C string. That is the best I can describe it. It is not what I have been doing, in the class last week, it did make it easier to “rock” the fingers, and was easier to reach that G and C string.
Your left hand should be in the shape of a "C" allowing you to touch only the tips of the fingers to the strings. This should remain in this position generally on all strings. If you have trouble maintaining a "C" shape when reaching the D and G strings in first position, move your elbow to the right to bring your fingers over to those strings. This will not be comfortable at first. It will come.
My thumb is showing up a little on the side, not just resting on the backside. I think I am right with my thumb on the violin based on videos here and on YouTube. It really can’t just rest in the backside like a cello. That big cello is supported by resting into the chest, the violin does not have as much support.
That is correct. You should avoid bending back your thumb and resting it on the back of the neck of the violin. It is proper to keep it on the side of the neck. But also do not bring your thumb up over the neck above the fingerboard. it should only rest on the side and the tip level with the fingerboard.
Are my fingers supposed to be curled and hitting more perpendicular like a cello? I can’t remember if that is how I do it, or not. But, it is something I am going to pay attention to.
Yes, keep your fingers curled so that only the tips are touching the strings. This will also necessitate timing fingernails often. Sorry, but violinists should not grow long fingernails.
- Pete -