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Issue when playing on the E String
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Rose

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January 18, 2018 - 12:07 pm
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I was practicing yesterday and I realized that when I was playing on the E string, I would hear a kind of airy sound when I played it- like air was coming out of it. I remember hearing this particularly on the E string, but I'm not sure about the others. I've rosined the bow and the E string was changed about a month ago. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong?

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January 18, 2018 - 12:56 pm
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Are you breathing hard? <----- Just kidding.

Not sure what that could be. Perhaps a recording would help.

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I'm thinking that it may just be that I'm hearing it from on top. Does that make sense?

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I find everything sounds a bit different from the top. I find making recordings helps me pinpoint trouble spots

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January 23, 2018 - 2:27 pm
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In a way it makes sense but I always here the instrument from on top.... If that is what you mean.

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I was hearing an additional sound lately.  Kinda like I was wearing a corduroy shirt that was rubbing against itself, so I took off my shirt and played...the sound was still there.  So I rosined the bow and the sound went away.  Thank you Fm rosin.

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January 25, 2018 - 4:04 pm
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LOL MrYikes, that made me laugh. By the way, you have corduroy shirts?

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Rose said
I was practicing yesterday and I realized that when I was playing on the E string, I would hear a kind of airy sound when I played it- like air was coming out of it.

If it sounds somewhat like a hiss, like air escaping, it's string noise. It's normal, and not really anything you can do anything about, although you might get less with a wound E string.

It's pretty much only audible to you (or whoever's playing the instrument). If you record it from, say, 4 feet away, you most likely won't hear it on the recording.

Another test to see if that's what it is is to play high up on the string (like an octave above the open string or even higher). If it's the same noise, but much more noticeable, it's the string noise I'm talking about. It's actually caused by the string twisting back and forth.  (Side note, when you play up really high, move your soundpoint closer to the bridge. The string is only half as long (maybe even less), so to be bowing at the same relative point, you need to move back some. If you don't, you might get other weird noises that will confuse the issue.)

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January 26, 2018 - 1:36 pm
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I have had this issue.   It drove me nuts.   I don't know if I got used to it or I started bowing straighter... it sounded like breathing.  I want to say every now and again I fixate on it and hear it again.   I  either got used to it or a bit of bowing straighter helped. I am at work so I can't give it a try to see.

As Charles mentioned, I could only hear it.  No one else seemed to hear.  That being said.. I usually play alone and for myself and it drove me mad for a time. 

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PS.  I wish I had some corduroy.  I love it.  I hope it gets back in the stores.  Yep... I am dating myself... and old enough not to care.  Haha.

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Is it that deep breathing sound you get when changing bow a bit faster? :) Cuz I love that sound hahaha, Fiddlerman has it in a bunch of his super-silent videos (when there's no backing music) 

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like the low growl sound?  I wish it was like something that Pierre does...I love the growl hiss.. :)

 

actually this sounds seems to be accentuated when playing long slow bows... I haven't noticed it in a long time.  

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Yea I was referring to that low hiss as the bow hair glides across the strings, I really like that sound.. makes everything sound 'real' :)

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