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I've had a struggle quitting my reading habits and switching to violin practice.
I've tried to come up with some sort of formal practice timetable to help me.
The reason I'm not asking my teacher first is because she's not used to an adult who wants to do his own thing, and I'm sort of "special needs".
I wondered if I should learn 3 pieces and a Kreutzer or 3 pieces including a Kreutzer and decided "3 including" is enough. (or for Kreutzer you can read "any long study that requires practice time", but I'm ready for Kreutzer 2 about now)
Then there are scales and arps. Then there are lighter specific technical exercises.
If I spend a half hour each on the three pieces and 1/2 hr on the technical exercises, and 1/2 hour on scales and arps, that adds up to 2 1/2 hours per day.
Do you think that's enough, or am I neglecting something and should I find an extra 1/2 hour daily and what should I do with it?
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What does your technical exercises involve? Is it finger based or is it based on bowing? If your technical exercises mostly involve fingering I would suggest focusing more on bowing technique for the extra time.
'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.

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HP said
What does your technical exercises involve? Is it finger based or is it based on bowing? If your technical exercises mostly involve fingering I would suggest focusing more on bowing technique for the extra time.
Everything. Books like these -
They deal with 4th finger strengthening. Legato bowing. String crossing. Positions. Everything. As the exercises get harder they get longer, so they would probably qualify as an extra piece to be learnt, and more than one would require the extra half hour.
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cid said
@Gordon Shumway If you have another half hour, why not work on a piece of you choosing to reinforce the other sections of your practice. Or, make it a simple piece that you can do without much difficulty (ie not a Mickey Mouse piece)
Maybe, but that (see my reply to HP), would make it 5 pieces I was studying, which is probably too much. As a kid, for piano exams, I never studied more than 3 pieces plus scales, but I never practised for more than 2 hours per day.
I was kind of asking, am I giving enough time to scales and arps at 1/2 hour, or would 1 hour be better?
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For a day to day basis 30 minutes should be okay. It depends of course of how many scales you work on a day. I typically use 30 minutes on 5 scales a day in total, and have one day a week where I have a longer period where I focus on all the scales.
'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.

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I really think this should be catered to the individual. I have tended to practice things I can't play well that have the techniques in them I want to learn. This way I can tell myself I'm working on music and not an "exercise". That probably goes against what any teacher will recommend and I don't recommend you copy me. I loose concentration quickly when trying to play technical exercises, easily distracted....look a squirrel!!
Some minds are more methodical and organized. Will spend hours just playing practice exercises. While I play them, they are a small part of what I play. I probably need another flesh and blood teacher. You seem to be able to keep at an organized pace without boredom. Most tend to learn this way.

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Well, a careful examination of my two favourite technical books now indicates that I need to work on three studies simultaneously to keep to my schedule (there's an orchestra I want to join in September next year), plus two musical pieces, which makes 5 at a half hour each = 2 1/2 hours, so that leaves 1/2 hour for scales and arps, lol.
I like scales and arps. I'm very bad at string-crossing, so they are good exercise for my right arm, wrist and fingers. Also I've found a nice fingering system that lets me play all scales with just three very similar fingerings (ok, 4 if you include melodic minor descending), all ending in such a way that I can do exactly the same run up the E string whenever I want a third octave. Also they are pretty important for developing intonation.
Apart from that, I agree with Pierre - practising scales won't help you play a piece - you have to practice the piece (and the fingering of the piece may differ from your usual fingering of the scales in the piece), although scales may assist in sight-reading. But certainly on the piano, the techniques used in playing scales and arps give your hands the flexibility and suppleness to play pieces that contain them.
Andrew
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