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Software for slowing a recording to practice tempo
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bocaholly
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On the "Community Orchestra" thread, I mentioned that I was looking for a software to slow down an iTunes/MP3 piece so I can play along at practice tempo. I got a bunch of useful suggestions so here's a new, dedicated thread for those apps. Thanks @Demoiselle, @Mark, @Jim Dunleavy and @AndrewH for your previous input.

Suggestions so far have been: 
- The Amazing Slow Downer ($50 for Mac-PC / $15 for iPhone-Android)(free lite)
- Audacity (freeware)
- NERO-Wave(freeware)
... While surfing, I also dug up...
- Anytune ($35 for Mac/PC, $15 for iPhone-Android) (30 day free trial for PC-Mac)

NERO-Wave and Audacity look like really powerful tools for music editing but I'm thinking I'd need to go get a pilot's license first to be able to operate their dashboards 
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The Amazing Slow Downer seems to be limited to my intended use as a practice tool. The dashboard looks relatively intuitive. The free lite version gets so-so reviews. The PC or Mac version allows storage of a ton of presets for a vast library of pieces. The Android-iOS version enables looping but I didn't notice the capacity to store presets for speed or the placement of bookmarks within a piece. It get's good reviews (4.3/5) for what ever that's worth.

Anytune looks a bit more complex than The Amazing Slow Downer. It looks like you can set bookmarks and the sliders to control where loops start and stop look more precise. If not sure if those settings can be saved. The reviews (same caveat as above) are stellar (4.8/5)

I'd love it if y'all would chime in with your knowledge of this stuff.mix_master-1255

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I would love to know more about Audacity, and I wish someone would start a thread here about it.  But I agree it appears to be very complicated.

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I have the amazing slow downer on my XP machine. I thought it was free?

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Thanks, @Andrew Shumway, if you have a link to the PC/Mac freeware version of the Amazing Slow Downer, I'm all ears. I only found the "lite" freeware version for iPhone.

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bocaholly said
Thanks, @Andrew Shumway, if you have a link to the PC/Mac freeware version of the Amazing Slow Downer, I'm all ears. I only found the "lite" freeware version for iPhone.  

Ah, that's the problem - It's maybe 10 years since I installed anything on the XP machine, so I can't remember. It's also possible there was more free, perhaps pirated, stuff around then. And nowadays a lot of stuff has acquired viruses and Trojan horses, even on what used to be reliable third-party sites.

Something else that is possible is that I got it when it was in its beta version - perhaps they were always free.

[edited] I'm checking out this version right now, but it doesn't look good: - http://www.ronimusic.com/download/setup_amsldo.exe

I think the site geography is poor - the download route should be via payment, not in parallel with it. But it seems to be saying if you register, there are free trial versions. Maybe they only last one or two usages or a week or two, or maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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See if this works http://www.ronimusic.com/downl.....amsldo.zip

It will play the first 2 tracks of a CD or the first quarter (max 3 minutes) of an audio file.

That might work. If your accompaniment lasts 3 minutes or less, record it and keep the recorder running for another 9 minutes?

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Thanks for that extra research, @Andrew Shumway. Dumb me, I should have specified that I have a Mac. Reading the "read me txt", I'm guessing that the references to "Setup exe" are for Windows. 

I'd love to hear how people feel "Amazing Slow Downer" compares to "Anytune".

Also, wondering if the extra $$ and preset options are worth using the computer based version over the mobile phone version of either of the two.

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FWIW I've only ever used the slowdowner a couple of times, so it's probably not worth the money unless you think you really will use it a lot.

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I do think I will use it a lot. A play along with the Youtubes of the Suzuki book pieces  that are available in slow - medium - normal tempo pretty often.

This is probably more critical for someone (me) who doesn't have much if any music experience and needs to learn to count and listen to rhythm as much as we need to learn to navigate the instrument.

Thx again for the input.

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Suggestions so far have been: 
- The Amazing Slow Downer ($50 for Mac-PC / $15 for iPhone-Android)(free lite)
- Audacity (freeware)
- NERO-Wave(freeware)
... While surfing, I also dug up...
- Anytune ($35 for Mac/PC, $15 for iPhone-Android) (30 day free trial for PC-Mac)

NERO-Wave and Audacity look like really powerful tools for music editing but I'm thinking I'd need to go get a pilot's license first to be able to operate their dashboards 
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I didn't know you get NERO as freeware. The Wave-Editor then unlikely allows to safe tracks as MP3. I got NERO with a DVD burner which I purchased 2005. I then was allowed to safe a couple tracks as MP3. Then the software reminded me to buy the official version of the NERO suite, denying MP3. I liked the NERO Wave-Edior and therefore bought NERO 9, which I still use. It has many features, also video ect. .... Though I use only the Wave-Editor and the multi-track program.

NERO difficult? Maybe.... Here two screenshots showing how I slowed down the example track. I used Time Correction the first time. Usually I rather pitch or transpose. If you click "Effects" you get to reverb ect. -- under "Volume" you can make tracks louder or even mute parts, or you fade in or out. In the first screenshot you see how to slow down a track: [1] you turn the button to 150% or another value, [2] you check the sound of the result by pushing the button on the left below. Finally you click "okay". 

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@Demoiselle, you're a real Renaissance woman... talented on multiple instruments, baroque dance and now computer software. What other tricks do you have up your sleeve? 🙂

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@Demoiselle, you're a real Renaissance woman... talented on multiple instruments, baroque dance and now computer software. What other tricks do you have up your sleeve? 🙂  

 Tap dance paddy-smiley

My violin is a 3/4 violin, made for right-handed players, though I play it left-handed. As I felt she was the best in the shop of all 3/4 violins I tried and the luthier agreed. I prefer Obligato strings together with Eudoxa E string.

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Irv said
I would love to know more about Audacity, and I wish someone would start a thread here about it.  But I agree it appears to be very complicated.  

Audacity definitely does what you want and it's free.

Download it, test it, then ask me to guide you if you can't figure it out. It's not as complicated as you may think.

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Fiddlerman said

Audacity definitely does what you want and it's free.

Download it, test it, then ask me to guide you if you can't figure it out. 

Thanks for the offer, Pierre. I looked at some tutorials and FAQs. This is very powerful and multi-purposed software... and would probably require a decent chunk of my time to get happy with.

I'm more in the market for a one trick pony so I think I'll start by spending $15 on Anytune. Note: There's a freeware version but then you can wind up spending up to $25 for add-ons.

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Initial Anytune report (Holly in serious mode):

I'm finding it easy and intuitive.

In a couple of minutes, I was able to:
- load a piece from my iTunes library (automatic recognition)
- slow it down (adjustment range from 25% to 200% for speed freaks)
- set a couple of bookmarks and learn how to lable them with measure numbers, &
- create a practice loop of a segment.

I find the online info clear and useful http://anytune.us/ios-user-gui.....-controls/

The sound slowed down to 50% is OK, certainly good enough for my purposes.

This is what the interface looks like, first in portrait view (showing loop mode), then in landscape view. I think the second is easier on the eye but you loose the zoomed out overview waveform.