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Tuning by ear?
I had two strange tuning-by-ear successes. Seems odd to me. Not sure if they were flukes or what.
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Just to be clear; although I've found I can tell by ear if my A string is in tune, I always check with my tuner as well. I don't trust my ear that much!

In both my orchestras we tune to the oboe. However, when the oboist plays their A, they always have an electronic tuner on their stand to make sure they're right on pitch. lol

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Jim Dunleavy said

In both my orchestras we tune to the oboe. However, when the oboist plays their A, they always have an electronic tuner on their stand to make sure they're right on pitch. lol  

That is very interesting. 

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I always used a tuning fork when I was an oboist.

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IMO every violinist should practice tuning their violins without a tuner. Not necessary tuning in fifths from only the A, but to try to tune each and every string to a played note. It's a excellent aural practice and good for your intonation. If you can hit a right fingered note, you should be able to do the same thing while tuning the violin. It's pretty much the same. A lot of tuning apps have a feature that allows you to play the open notes. This is a great way to start. 

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The tradition of the oboe player giving the A to the orchestra started because it was considered the least affected by weather, environment and the clearest tone to hear compared to other instruments in the orchestra.
Now a days they almost always have a tuner next to them and give the orchestra a consistent 442 or 443 A. That being said, string players tend to tune even higher than the oboist and that A gets lost quickly with all the string players playing too loud to be heard. LOL
It was one of my pet pees back in the day. When I would lead I would have to remind musicians to tune softly.

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The strange thing is an oboe's pitch is not fixed at all - when you get tired and your embouchure gets more relaxed, you can end up pretty flat. And if you've already over-compensated at the tuning-up, then it's not funny! It doesn't worry you when you are inexperienced, but then when you become aware of it, it's quite scary. With hindsight, if I could go back, I'd tell myself to think about the difficulties and practise them at home!

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I think the idea was that the instrument was more stable. Embouchure is another thing. 🙂 I agree with you Gordon and idea and reality is not the same thing. I have questioned the oboists A on more than one occasion. Need to do it with respect though.

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Remember.... it is still critical to tune to the orchestra, whether everyone is precisely at A 440 Hz is not quite as important as being in tune together.

Tuning by ear is a very good skill and will serve you well, especially in orchestra.  The violin Section Leader will generally give the A that the strings will tune to.  So listening and hearing this and tuning to it will be important.  The conductor will sometimes ask you to change a specific player's tune as well.

I constantly work on my ear.  Not only to tune the strings beginning each practice, but also to hear my intonation while I play.  The tuner does not decide what note I play... I do. 

It's awesome that you are listening for the correct note!  You are training your ear.  And that will continue throughout your entire playing life.

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