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The Vals - how complicated can it be?
No "Oom-Pah-Pah" here!
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https://centuryballroom.com/home/sites/default/files/WaltzSun_2.jpg

I've always loved waltzes, but I never thought I'd be so "head-over-heels" for the Folk Vals of Sweden, because they are not the same as what I grew up learning! 

Funny, as a child, my father convinced me a waltz was as simple as "Oom, Pah-Pah" or "One... Two, Three".  I'm sure it had something to do with my Great Grandfather coming to the USA from Germany (and the little accordion he handed down).  

Later, I would find a waltz could definitely be more complicated than "Oom, Pah-Pah"... 

While I was in the Military (of all places!), I was lucky enough to experience a few waltzes at the hands of some extremely talented dance partners.  It was MAGIC!  This makes my perception of a waltz very multi-dimensional - probably the closest I'll ever come to an "out-of-body" experience (although aerobatics in a vintage plane came close, too)!  I regret, to this day, I couldn't persuade my Soulmate (of many years) to take up Ballroom Dancing with me.

Anyway, now that the Fiddle has led me to explore Swedish Folk Music, here's some explanation as to how/why the "Swedish folk vals" are different. 

 

I'm never going to be happy until I learn to play this vals on my 5-string, "Mortimer".  It's one of my favorites, transferred from the other thread, "Hökpers vals" - presented here by Mia Marin along with a polska, "Carica".  Even Mia can't keep still while she plays this!

So, after listening to and playing some Swedish Folk Vals, I decided to search deeper.  Wikipedia has really piqued my interest with all the waltz "variants".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltz 

Maybe I'll move a few other videos/tutorials here, but I think there's many more Vals (or Valsen? Help me with the correct term if you can!) in the Nordic region to explore. 

Thoughts?

Just Being Contented Smiley

- Emily

 

                                                                                                                                                             

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Maybe I'll move a few other videos/tutorials here, but I think there's many more Vals (or Valsen? Help me with the correct term if you can!) in the Nordic region to explore.                                                                                                                                          

 

 

Little off topic: Swedish is the official language in Finland, in practice this means that we have so called ”pakkoruotsi” = obligatory Swedish, so every child studies Swedish at school at least a couple of years. So did also I, but unfortunatelly my skills are very rusty nowadays because I haven’t had any need to speak Swedish. I can understand it when I read it, but if I go to Sweden I have huge problems to understand when somebody speaks it. That’s also because people in Sweden and in Finland speaks it differently. 

In Swedish Vals is just a waltz, valsen when you talk about some particular waltz.
(And I’m not good with explaining any grammatic...🙄)

Many waltzes:
In Swedish - många valser
In Finnish - useita valsseja

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Ilona -

Thank you so much - that will help me in the future because I wish to talk about these more!

I just learned today that a "Vispolska" means a "song or ballad' polska!

 

https://www.lanesboro.lib.mn.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cat_fiddle.jpg- Emily

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Thought I'd better transplant this post here, because I LOVE THIS VALS!

giphy.gifEmelie Walken's (Sweden) tutorial for the haunting, "H-moll Valsen" (Bm Waltz).

The tutorial for the FIDDLE starts at 3 minutes into the video.  I learned this today (so anyone can learn this)!

 

LetOkay, so I did learn the basic tune back when I originally posted this (end of Aug?) - now I'm back to it.  Been trying to get the whole extra "variations/ornamentation" thing down & let me tell you, I may not have much patience but I AM persistent (stubborn)! 

The 1st video in this thread is helpful - I'm getting there... and keeping in mind the ornamentation is left up to the player, which leaves some room for interpretation (trying to still keep this fun).

I'd LOVE to hear if someone else has tried this, yet! 

giphy.gif- Emily

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Induction Hypno GIF - Induction Hypno Hypnosis GIFs Figured I'd better transplant this post, also from the end of August since nobody commented on it. 

I think this Vals is sooooo hypnotic... you guessed it (it's been on my list & I've already tried some of it)!  I guess it's not so different from some of the other haunting tunes I love! 

"Stålvalsen" by Mia Marin (Mikael Marin & Leo Sander are also playing) - "a tune in Dm with a variable blue F intonation" with 5-string Fiddle and 5-string Viola!

 I've read that sometimes, Mikael will tune his 5-string viola down from CGDAE to GDAEB - which actually makes it an OCTAVE lower than the common tuning of a 4-string Fiddle! 

Doesn't anyone want to play this/think it's SUPER COOL but me?  The Bad Devil Smiley Oh, maybe it pays to have a 5-string after all...

Whisper Of The Heart GIF - WhisperOfTheHeart Cartoon Anime GIFs- Emily

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