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Ferret
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April 14, 2014 - 7:16 am
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Yeah

OK

If I where to say what I was thinking after what I've read I'd probably get kicked off the forum ( like @Composer )  Oops, my bad.

It was a was a question from a 'naive colonial'. Please forgive me.

It was just a question that I asked of my FM family.

It looks like I had better not call you 'Yanks'

As @Fiddlerman Pierre said, you can call 'me' whatever you like.

Am beginning to wish that I had never asked.

Chill out guys

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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Fiddlerman
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April 14, 2014 - 9:15 am
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About Composer,
Does anyone miss him? Did he ever write anything positive or that wasn't controversial?
Composer went beyond being negative and controversial and actually offended quite a few players here as well as putting down their playing and never even posted one video of himself playing.
He is the only one that I ever banned from the site and it was because of many PM's that requested it and quite a few ignored warnings that he received.

I'd be happy if we dropped the subject about confederate flag as well. I know people who have the flag up which are not racists but simply love the south.
http://www.debate.org/opinions.....lag-racist
I don't want this forum to be a censored place and am not going to ban anyone for stating their opinions but please use caution to avoid offending someone with a different opinion.

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but the one who needs the least."

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Hman
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Yea sorry. I didn't mean that people with it are racist. But at one point people with the flag supported slavery and thus racism. Sorry for not "saying" what I meant. 

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KindaScratchy
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April 14, 2014 - 8:39 pm
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As for John's @Ferret original question about whether the term Yank or Yankee is offensive, I think that it really depends on the intention of the person saying it and the perspective of the person hearing it.

Here in New England where true Yankees live (never could understand why they named a New York baseball team the "Yankees"), the term can be either a source of pride or an insult implying that a person is stubborn or cheap. But even then, it's not all that insulting. Many folks here are proud of their independence and frugality.

Even though I am not a Yankee in the strictest sense (I'm descended from German, Irish and French immigrants), I wouldn't be offended if someone called me a Yankee just because I'm from the North or an American. I am both.

I'd only be offended if you implied that I am a fan of that NYC baseball team. I am not.

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Since this is a music site and the topic is yankees.  It might be appropriate to discuss what many claim to be the origins of the song: Yankee Doodle Dandy. Although no one knows for absolute fact how it all transpired, in the 1600's and early 1700's there were, in England, men who adopted feminine mannerisms and dressed lavishly.  They were, at that time, referred to as fops. By the middle of the 18th century that had adopted the wearing of powdered wigs with very large tubular curls called "macaroni wigs" and were referred to as dandies.  This is a large part of the back story to the song.

The British, always fond of ridiculing the colonial militias created and sang a version of an English folk tune using the words:

Yankee Doodle went to town
Riding on a pony;
He stuck a feather in his hat,
And called it macaroni

This implied that the colonial soldiers were nothing more than effeminate rubes who thought that if they put a feather in their hats, they were the height of fashion.  The colonial soldiers were less than amused by the tune.

One account indicates that after one of the early encounters leading up to the revolutionary war, some captured British solders were forced to dance to the tune until they were so tired they could no longer stand. At which point a colonial soldier asked them, "How do you like that song now?"  (I like to think of it in Clint Eastwood's voice.) In any event the song that was used to ridicule the colonial soldiers was adopted by them as their theme song. 

Interesting how insults can backfire.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

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KindaScratchy
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April 14, 2014 - 9:41 pm
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Good one, @Uzi! I'm glad you mentioned Yankee Doodle and its role in American history.

I forgot to mention that Yankee is prominent in the nomenclature here in New England. For example there's a popular dish called Yankee pot roast, a company that makes scented candles called Yankee Candle, a nuclear power plant named Yankee, and the Christmastime tradition of a Yankee Swap (aka white elephant exchange elsewhere), to name a few.

So, Yankee is definitely NOT a pejorative term in my neck of the woods.

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Fiddlerman
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April 14, 2014 - 9:43 pm
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Great story Uzi. Thanks for that.

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but the one who needs the least."

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@ Ferret: Don't worry too much "mate" all's well.

@ KindaScratchy: Nor am I a fan of the ' New York' baseball team or the ' Bo-Sox ' for that matter. roflrofl Grrrrrrr..... " Go Gettum Tigers "  clapclap

@ Fiddlerman: I miss him like a ingrown toenail.   

@ Uzi: I didn't know dat.   dancing

 

9k=     Z

 

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@Fiddlestix 

Thanks Ken. Your input is always appriecated  and respected. thumbs-up

@Uzi 

Thanks. Great stuff mate :)

@KindaScratchy 

Diane... Base... What? rofl (yes... Do actually know about baseball. It's cricket and rugby here) rather British you know. hats_off

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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Interesting info Uzi ,paints quite the picture of the British soldiers being forced to dance. I bet there was a fiddler involved.

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hahahaha Oh i bet there was a fiddle involved. Who knew something so silly as a kid had such a unique history! and i can see colonial soldiers doing that back then!

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Hman said
Yea sorry. I didn't mean that people with it are racist. But at one point people with the flag supported slavery and thus racism. Sorry for not "saying" what I meant. 

Maryland and Delaware were slave states that remained in the Union, so they were "with" the US flag.  Besides that, the people of the seceding states before secession were "with" the US flag.  Then do you have such negative feelings about the US flag too?  You don't have to answer.

Right, you shouldn't have brought it up.

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