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When will Spring get here?
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February 7, 2020 - 4:02 pm
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Well, we got hit last night, and it will continue at least another day and a half:

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My husband shoveled the porch down to the cement yesterday afternoon. Drove the tractor with his little plow down the front sidewalk and cleared it, and did the driveway to clear it all before this storm, so this is all from the storm. When will Spring arrive?

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Spring is just around the corner.

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February 7, 2020 - 7:54 pm
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roflol

Oh I needed that!

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MoonShadows said

Spring is just around the corner.

 

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  roflol  now THAT is funny!

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LOL!

 

As for the season, it depends on what you call spring, doesn't it? Maybe my perspective is skewed because of where I grew up, but I don't feel like spring has arrived until May or sometimes June in California...

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February 8, 2020 - 7:39 am
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Spring is usually showing signs in early March here, and is well started by the end of March, although chilly and occasionally a little snow, no snow storms, normally, but Winter is usually winding down now as temps start being above freezing, but geesh, now we are getting the snow. We have had snow on Mothers’s Day and in June once in a while, but it does not stick around long because it is warm. Roads and sidewalks pretty much finish drying out after they are shoveled and don’t get the icy stage, That won’t be the case with this snow in February. I guess it would not seem so odd or late if we hadn’t have had such a stretch of no snow, we had rain and above freezing temps, with a few periods of snow. I figured we were on our way. Nope. What a set back.

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Let's put it this way: I don't consider it spring until I'm seeing temperatures consistently in the 80s. I also don't consider it summer until it's over 100. As far as I'm concerned, most of the US has no summer.tongue

 

I grew up in Dubai, where overnight lows drop below 50 maybe one or two nights in a decade, and the all time record low is 43. I'm perfectly comfortable with outdoor sports in 110 degree weather, but at 50 degrees I'm bundling up in several layers.

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Sometimes we wonder if we had a Summer. Some of them are not very warm, some rain all the time, and some seem short because the Fall temps come too soon. Must be why our local weather people get it wrong so often. I just watch the satellite weather pattern and figure it out myself the way the clouds are going. 

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before the real spring shows up in the country you  have to get through...possum tail winter, dogwood, skunk foot, bear claw, sweetgum, barkin' dawg winter, the cats meow winter...before the real spring shows 😉  think I got 'em all.  feel free to add your regional favorite.

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We haven't had a lot of snow the last few winters here as compared to prior years. Some really cold temps though. I remember -15F for about a week and not much higher after that. I kept hearing predictions for a real bad winter this year. Farmer's almanacs, weather predictions using weather models and so forth.

I had a 20 year old snowblower that was a bit too small for the kind of stuff the snow plow pushes at the end of the driveway since it's a 5hp. Still worked except in those places. I've had a few medical issues so I didn't want to be buried in the stuff with an under powered machine.....I went out and bought a new much more powerful snow blower. Everyone I tell thanks me for buying it because I made the snow go away.

This year has probably been the least amount of snow I can remember in my area. We haven't had much of anything. Usually at this time we have had 4 to 6 decent snows.

We still could get a bunch later because we still have until probably the end of March. Years back in the 90's this area had a HUGE snow in March. One of the largest on record.............so it can still happen.

Until then, I have a huge expensive paper weight in my garage 🙂

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Starise, are you in the states? It seems to me we had much more snow when I was in school. I had 6 brothers and 2 sisters and we lined up a couple times a week to shovel the driveway and sidewalk.

I remember one Winter when my mother was in the hospital and I ice skated on the streets (two streets east) to go visit her. No cars could be on the roads. It was a cool thing to do as a kid. A lot of people were skating.

Another time I when I was a junior in high school I spent the night at one of my brothers. He was working nights and his wife was due anytime, so I spent the nights there with her, and walked to school from there. One morning we woke up to a blizzard and I walked down the middle of Main Street to get home. It was almost knee deep. Luckily, the shop my brother worked at at the time closed down real early and he was home that night, but I couldn’t go home til morning.

Where my house was, we basically owned 4 village lots, it spanned from the street in front of the house to the street behind us, two lots wide. My father got a bunch of plastic and tried to build is a skating rink. It didn’t work, snow filled it before we could freeze water but the snow make it real fun! Because our property spanned from one street to another, the neighbors wanted us to put a driveway in from one street to the other. LOL Did not happen.

I used to walk to the skating rink all the time and it still makes me sad that I can’t ice skate anymore. I would go in the morning, home for lunch, walk back and skate, walk home for dinner and walk back for the evening skate time. It did not matter how cold it was or snowy, I was out in it.

Now, I can’t stand the cold and snow. But, we don’t get as much and it is not as specific for the months we get it. It also will come and hit us hard and then the temps go up to Spring like temps, and if anything, it rains. Then the temp drops again, a ton of snow, like Friday night. We will have some days of freezing weather, and then back to Spring-like again. It is like we now have Sprinter, Summer and Fall instead of Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter. But, even Sprinter does give us as much snow as it did up until the late 1970’s mid 1980’s. Just in spirts, all at once. It is odd.

We don’t get the bad thunderstorms we used to get either. They kind of lessened around the late 1980’s and mid 1990’s. I remember because my kids noticed and longed for a good t-storm and they never came. Again, weird.

I don’t know why I dislike cold and snow so much now, even though snow storms are not nearly as fierce. Maybe because I do not drive on the Winter roads and we live in the country, meaning we drive for a load of bread, have to shovel the mailbox area or we won’t get mail and hope the plow does not hit it. Maybe, the cold just gets the bones more. Now, that last one makes no sense! I was a skinny minny, Mouse, when I was a kid and in the cold and snow and loving it. I do have a little more insulation now!

Oh well, what can you do? Spring has to come and stay in a few weeks. But, I would really like to see Winter wane to where we only have a small squall come through once in a while, not a Winter Storm. At least we got out internet back. Many don’t have it yet.

If the lakes got colder we wouldn’t get so much lake affect into the mid-Winter, but even that has lessened over the decades. We are close enough to get Lake Ontario and Lake Erie lake affect when the wind direction is right, but closer to Lake Ontario. Just have to wait it out. It is supposed to warm up a bit this coming week. Hurray!

Ugh, I should have used “Mouse” for my screen name! Cid is what my husband calls me, and I could not think of anything else.

Viola Time! 

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Extremely interesting episode of Nova in which they Explore the Polar Extremes of the Planet 

Without getting into the politics of it, I have not been a big believer in the human effect on climate change. There is just so much conflicting information out there, but yesterday afternoon I watched this Nova presentation, and it really got me thinking about what is going on with our climate. I think this video does a very good job of explaining it.

Following a trail of fossils found in all the wrong places–beech trees in Antarctica, redwoods and hippo-like mammals in the Arctic–NOVA uncovers the bizarre history of the poles, from miles-thick ice sheets to warm polar forests teeming with life.

Polar Extremes

This link is for a 3 minute preview:

https://www.pbs.org/video/pola.....ew-oh81yx/

This link is for the entire show, 1 hour, 53 mintues:

https://www.pbs.org/video/pola.....=nova_2020

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cid, I'm in Lancaster County Pennsylvania located in the vicinity of the southeast corner. About 15 miles south and I cross the Mason Dixon into Maryland. I am originally from South Georgia where it was almost unheard of to get snow of any kind. My dad married a Yankee when in the Navy and took her south. Her family lived in California at the time but moved to PA. so I have family from up around where you are. I guess upper New York State or close.Some of them are in the tip of Northeast PA...Then my dad's side are all down "yonder" south. I came back north but not as far north as you and Moonshadows.

The first year here was a real adjustment in the 80's. Slid a car off the road. Had no idea how to drive in the stuff. Learned a lot since then. My job now requires I be there even if it's dangerous for others. They were issuing cards so that if the state patrol pulled me over I could show I have permission to be on the road. I was re assigned a new position where 99% of my work involves computer work with building automation. I had hoped that when I changed jobs they would lift that requirement since I have the ability to work remotely on computer. No such luck. If I go outside start my car and it slides down my driveway on ice...I'm not going, sorry. IOW if the roads are ice, it just isn't worth it until they treat the roads. So far though this year it hasn't been a concern at all. I have been on the road passing by multiple cars off the road in a blizzard wondering when my turn was coming. I was very fortunate to have made it home a few times.

Funny you mentioned ice skating rinks. I live in a heavily Amish community. Both neighbors are Amish. They have a large field out back. They always have large equipment around, so they dug part of a field low and made an ice skating rink out of it. Worked very well! This year though, not cold enough to sustain it....yet.

Moonshadows, This is all very interesting. I think we had a polar shift a long time ago. There have been extremes and "mini" ice ages as I understand it.  People in times past have thought it was the end of the world and things eventually swing back the other way. I think it's going to get very bad eventually. I hope I'm not around to see it. Thanks for sharing those links.

I am subscribed to this guy's YouTube Channel. He brings a lot of data together on one web page which I find interesting.  MRMBB333

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The older I get, the more timid I get. In 1973 I used to drive my Chevy Vega and never thought anything of it. Now, we have a Subaru Legacy (Have bought them since 1999) and I don’t go out in snow, and won’t, even after my knee is not a worry. That episode sliding down the hill going to the local little store put an end to it. The roads are not plowed well here. I grew up on the other side of the lake, more populated. This is rural here. I live on a main road, not a busy 4 lane, but a main road to the small city 10 miles away and it really does not get plowed regularly enough.

Every year I tell myself, “drive!” I never listen to myself.

When we were Fall/Winter/Springing in Vegas they got a dusting of snow in Henderson and the weather people went crazy! Too funny. They were out there making snow angels! Pff! Really? Give me a break. “You ain't seen nothing!” 😂 

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I don't blame you cid. If I didn't have to go out I wouldn't.

Yeah it's kinda comical to see the occasional deep freeze the south. Most houses don't have basements. Water lines are under the floor in a crawl space. Bad things can happen. The drivers don't have a clue what to do. I was one of those drivers.

Up here where I am no, in one section going to my job we get snow drifts regularly. You drive up and there's 8" or more of snow if the plow didn't go through, or I've been going up a hill behind 5 other drivers who couldn't make it up the hill just sitting there spinning. Do I back down the hill with drivers behind me? Attempt to pass the stuck drivers? ...you think why did I get out of bed today?

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Funny thing. When we drive around, I look at driveways. I tell Jer, “I would never buy that house. I would not want to do that driveway in the Winter.” There are certain cities and villages I would never live in around here because of the hills. I think of Winter all year round. 😊

We came back here permanently in March 2017 ... The day before a late major snow storm! It chased us all the way home, seriously. It was pretty much our route. In 2016, we had to head out back to NY right after a bunch of tornadoes going through Ok, MO, Il and before the next ones that were coming up from Texas(?) or someplace. They were the only two trips either way to Vegas and back where there were any worries about bad weather. I guess we were lucky. We did it for three years.

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