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THE ABSOLUTELY STRANGEST CELLO I HAVE EVER SEEN OR HEARD
This is so odd. No way I want to tune 19 strings!
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cid
June 28, 2019 - 11:00 pm
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@Irv and @steveduf This is for you two!

Other people should watch this, too.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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@cid .  Have I got something for you.  I did a radio program years ago on a form of oriental chanting where a singer starts with a fundimental tone and vocally develops a series of over tone harmonics.  Other worldly.  It is called Tuan Throat Singing.

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Strange is all I will say.  I wonder how much a set of strings runs for that bad boy

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@Irv That is it! That is what all of today’s, mostly female, singers are trying to do. It started back with Mariah Carey! They can’t hit a note so they just slide all over and hope they hit it with all that whining and sliding! They are actually trying to do Tuan Throat! I apologize to all who actually like that sliding, slurring, whining and screeching “singing” that is so popular now. Yeah, right! Taking 15 notes to slur around and only saying the word, “the”, is not appealing to me. Then, you are not sure that was even the word because they do not enunciate.

Me? I like to hear the note and I like to be able to understand what they a saying. 

@Irv  You hit a sour note with that comment! roflol

In all seriousness, that is fascinating. I am just going to have to Google it. 

@steveduf  I was wondering about string cost, too. It looks awkward to hold and maneuver. You should build one for Mack. 

I was not too thrilled with that mechanical whirring sound. I think it was the drone. 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Looks like a large viola de gamba, which has sympathetic strings. A fellow named Edward Maday is making a cello-sized one and has been posting on Instagram. I think he has vids on the Youtube also. Gorgeous instrument and well worth a look.

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George Harrison would have loved that!

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@Leaviathan I bet he would and would probably work magic with it. I am beginning to like the sound a little more. 

Hey, Leaviathan, maybe that is what you should do on cello 😁!

I love some innovatiobs. I actually love this and the work and thought that went onto it. I am very impressed.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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@cid .  Mariah Carey has nothing on Tuan Throat Singing.  

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Another innovative design is the Guitar Viol.  A guitar with an end peg that can be played with a bow. FF104343-CD1E-4B02-A9F3-77562210E6B6.jpegImage Enlarger

Research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I’m doing.  —Werner von Braun

Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.         —Frank Zappa

Experience is a difficult teacher, it gives the test first and the lesson after.

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@Irv So does that instrument sound like a guitar, viola or cello?

People should visit the cello section even if they don’t play cello. Look at the interesting things we discover. dancing

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Plenty of videos in yt, but it sounds like a cello to me.  

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Irv said
Another innovative design is the Guitar Viol.  A guitar with an end peg that can be played with a bow. FF104343-CD1E-4B02-A9F3-77562210E6B6.jpegImage Enlarger

  

Wouldn't that just be a modern version of the arpeggione, with an endpin added?

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Here's the first movement Schubert's Arpeggione Sonata, the only significant piece ever composed for that instrument, on an arpeggione. Fewer than a hundred arpeggiones have ever been made, most of them in the last 50 years due to a revival of interest in historically accurate instruments. The arpeggione's strings are tuned exactly the same as those of a guitar.

The Schubert sonata has been much more commonly played on either viola or cello.

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Also, since we're talking about things similar to the cello, here's some Mongolian throat singing accompanied by the morin khuur, a Mongolian string instrument. (Mongolian singing is closely related to Tuvan -- not Tuan -- throat singing. Tuva is a region of Siberia that borders Mongolia.) Listen for the whistling overtones!

The body of the morin khuur is traditionally a wood frame with goat or sheep skin stretched over it, but in the 20th century, influenced by the western cello, morin khuur makers mostly changed over to an all-wood body with f holes. Some morin khuur players now also use Western cello bows.

The morin khuur shows up a lot in Mongolian rock music too. (It's not The Who, it's The HU!)

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cid said
@Leaviathan I bet he would and would probably work magic with it. I am beginning to like the sound a little more. 

Hey, Leaviathan, maybe that is what you should do on cello 😁!

I love some innovatiobs. I actually love this and the work and thought that went onto it. I am very impressed.

  

I'm all about experimenting 🙂

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Oh, and here's some Tuvan throat singing in the context of Western avant-garde music. This is a piece for throat-singer and orchestra that one of my orchestras performed three or four years ago. (This video isn't us.) I remember this being one of the hardest things I've ever played in an orchestra because of all the quarter-tone accidentals in it.

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Holy mackerel, @AndrewH, all of the Western contemporary composers have nothing on these guys!

Besides which, you'd almost need to shoot a scifi film for the music instead of writing music for a film.

Todd Boston shares your opinion that the GuitarViol is a close relative of the Arpeggione https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....lDvBcIMEvI

I alway wonder WHY a kind of music was born... for example, sometimes to communicate between mountain tops. Any clue if there's something pragmatic behind this way of making music?

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@AndrewH  have you heard wolf totem by them?  A couple of us got into a discussion about this style of music at work a fews weeks back.  Don't know how it started think maybe it popped up in someone's youtube feed.  Cranked it up on the wireless speakers for a bit along with viking rock ..lol.  Sorta similar. Check out wolf totem.

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It's cool but I'd get tired of one drone. Or is it adjustable?

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Not sure about the drone. The strings on the side just vibrate with the cello. Not sure they are drones. The strings that go through the fingerboard  are drones and are activated by that motor turning the disc thingy. I am very technical!

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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