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Learning a Tune Before Hearing it Played
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SharonC
January 29, 2023 - 7:07 pm
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For the Rockin Robin Party, I got a tune from the Session website called The Sparrow’s Tail.  I made up a 2nd violin part and posted it here: https://fiddlerman.com/forum/p.....n/#p129436

Here it is:

Since then, I went back to the Session, and saw that the person who wrote it (about 15 years ago), Gian Marco Pietrasanta, had posted a video of himself playing the tune on his Overton flute:

And he also posted a German group playing it at an Irish Set Dance (last song of the set ~5:18):

I thought it was interesting to hear the different ways it was played.  I think I would have come up with something different for the 2nd violin if I had heard these versions first (I had only listened to the electronic version posted on the Session). 

I think it’s important to hear Pro versions of pieces I’m practicing on.  But just playing a short tune without doing that beforehand can be a good exercise, too smile

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January 29, 2023 - 10:37 pm
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@SharonC -

You did great - especially for making up a second voice! 

Even though I have Jig & Hornpipe rhythm down, I still try to find an example for slides, because I don't play enough of them.  Reels I check too, since they aren't always an even 1, 2, 3, 4 - thank goodness!  

Just a note: I have found Gian Marco's notation to be excellent & very reliable, for everything he contributes!  I actively search out his settings at thesession.org, when I'm faced with several variations of a tune. 

...think the Augusta Ceili Band was playing a little faster than the dancers could handle. 😄  Woo Hoo! 

Btw, your arrangement made me think of the Renaissance Festival - loved it! 

 

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Mark
January 29, 2023 - 11:48 pm
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SharonC

Great tune, and great playing as usual. 

Enjoyed that.

Thanks,

Mark

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@SharonC said..

I thought it was interesting to hear the different ways it was played.  I think I would have come up with something different for the 2nd violin if I had heard these versions first (I had only listened to the electronic version posted on the Session). 

I think it’s important to hear Pro versions of pieces I’m practicing on.  But just playing a short tune without doing that beforehand can be a good exercise, too 

I thought what you came up with sounded good.  It does have a renaissance type feel to it. i think in your post what you did works and sounds good

I agree its good to listen to alot of music in the style wanted to play.  Think its really important..

On the other hand sometimes a particular way to play them gets us in a mindset we have to be exactly like what we hear for it to be correct.  Theres been several trad type tunes that Ive heard where the artists have taken a nontraditional approach and made some really great music.  

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Great job! I normally do listen to other people play a tune I’m learning, but it is a fun exercise to learn it on your own and truly bring yourself into the piece. 

that said, I need to learn this one, as I have pet house sparrows that love fiddle music, it would be fitting, lol.

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Thanks, all! 

@ELCBK Yeah, I thought the dancers were having trouble as the music was speeding up--they would've found my version too slow, I'm sure smile

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Fiddlerman
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February 6, 2023 - 1:45 pm
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Good job and nice tune Sharon. You can do a third frame with you dancing.
Which reminds me of my Beethovens Disco Fifth.... ROFL.
Thanks for sharing!

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We NEED to see that, @Fiddlerman. When and where are you going to post it?

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Fiddlerman said
Good job and nice tune Sharon. You can do a third frame with you dancing.
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@Fiddlerman  Thanks.  Fat chance—no dancing for me.  My dancing skills rate right up there with my singing. 🤮

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We NEED to see that, @Fiddlerman. When and where are you going to post it?

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I was sure that you had seen it. LOL

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Good job and nice tune Sharon. You can do a third frame with you dancing...

@Fiddlerman  Thanks.  Fat chance—no dancing for me.  My dancing skills rate right up there with my singing. 🤮

Mine too, but that never stopped me. lol

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@Fiddlerman, you should conduct an orchestra with those moves! That was very well done. I do think that I did watch that video before, but it does not get old. Thanks for the repost.

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