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My First Orchestra Experience
Hopefully an ongoing discussion... topics on beginning in orchestra, dealing with learning the music, following the conductor, playing with the section, being a positive contribution to the orchestra.
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Can I borrow your rosin @Gordon Shumway? I promise not to drop it (holds out shaking hand).

- Pete -

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Quick summary of this morning - we did a Sibelius Andante (or Largo or Adagio - there weren't enough parts for me to take one home, so I can't remember what it was. It was a very nice gentle introduction, although, interestingly, mostly in 3rd position. I noticed the woman on my right played mostly in first and ignored the octaves, although she was better than me)

Then we did the whole of the Charterhouse Suite by Vaughan Williams. That was pretty hair-raising to sight-read, especially as it was mostly in third and second positions. Luckily I've got the music at home to practise. Pity I've got a girlfriend!

Andrew

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@Gordon Shumway said, Pity I've got a girlfriend!

Geeze, Alf! You better hope your girlfriend does not join this forum.

I bet your girlfriend likes hearing you play. 😁

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Hmmm, thanks for posting that link @Gordon Shumway !

Yeah - for sure - you all know my playing genre is fiddle or improvised fiddle/violin adaptations of other pieces - but - my background-music-listening these days (and  indeed for many years) is/has-been classical.  Pop and AABB fiddle tunes are "easy" so to say - I always like the extended complexity of orchestrated pieces - they are - to me - well - I suppose not as boring (but equally, not as much "fun" to play along-with or to a small bunch of friends or a small audience - which ultimately is all I want to do)

Anyway - thanks again - nice listening - and only about 1/3rd way through as I write this.....

ROFL @the girlfriend reference - - - yeah, the ladies demand their time, don't they just!  Hahahaha - truly - no offence intended in any way whatsoever to all the ladies here - it's my sense of humour - we blokes can be just as bad - in fact probably worse.....  I'm a prime offender in that matter when I have the headphones on... LOL - although I was aware Debbie had said something (but un-intelligible to my headphoned ears) and I didn't actually make out what she said -I quite simply ignore the "interruption"treating it as extraneous noise.... OMG PLEASE don't let her know that.....   When I eventually get pressed into responding by either being shouted at or jabbed in the shoulder - I lie unconvincingly - "Oh, sorry love, didn't hear you earlier" (giving my horrible, treacherous lying behaviour away in a few words....)

We can't win, Andrew - accept that !!!!! LOLOL 

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Congrats on the girlfriend Gordon especially since you listed finding a wife as a goal somewhere on here I seem to remember.  A girlfriend is always a positive first step in that direction.  And I liked the piece of music you posted.  Sounds difficult.  I can imagine what a thrill it would be to play with a whole Orchestra.  Its always amazing how powerful a sound one (orchestra) can produce.  Like a rock band.

@Billyg we have yearly hearing test at work which conviently provides me with scientific proof I have hearing loss around the female voice frequencies.  This fact has yet to release me from fault for my tendency to not be in the moment during important conversations.  Mere excuses causes or reasons have not been acceptable.

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@BillyG said:

ROFL @the girlfriend reference - - - yeah, the ladies demand their time, don't they just!  Hahahaha - truly - no offence intended in any way whatsoever to all the ladies here - it's my sense of humour - we blokes can be just as bad - in fact probably worse.....  I'm a prime offender in that matter when I have the headphones on... LOL - although I was aware Debbie had said something (but un-intelligible to my headphoned ears) and I didn't actually make out what she said -I quite simply ignore the "interruption"treating it as extraneous noise.... OMG PLEASE don't let her know that.....   When I eventually get pressed into responding by either being shouted at or jabbed in the shoulder - I lie unconvincingly - "Oh, sorry love, didn't hear you earlier" (giving my horrible, treacherous lying behaviour away in a few words....)

We can't win, Andrew - accept that !!!!! LOLOL 

1. Ladies do not demand time from you gents. We just know your need to be made to feel like you are needed. We accommodate that need for your sensitive little man-cave era egos.

2.  I have Debbie on speed dial. She just received this post! 😂

3. We know you all lie. We ladies are smarter than the more than average bloke, let alone the average bloke.

4. A bit slow, aren’t you? You just figured out you cannot win? We ladies know that the day we are born. Haven’t you been told Gents mature a lot slower than the ladies. It is a proven fact.  That is why a lot of blokes marry ladies younger than they are. That is why so many ladies have to marry blokes older than they are. 

OMgosh! You have really stepped in it, this time! 

Now fess up, you knew this was coming when you posted that comedy skitch. I was more than happy to oblige. 😇

cheers That is not beer! I detest beer. That is diet soda. 😂

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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roflroflroflrofl@GregW - oops - we blokes are probably skating on thin ice here....   I'll take the blame being around 3000 or so-plus miles across the pond....  but then again, Garry Scheer (heck, cant find your profile nick Gary, if you still follow the forum), and his good lady Karen (who, quite clearly puts-up with Gary's musical interests !!!!  - and good for you lass !) visited Scotland a couple of years back and we had an impromptu meet-up in Ullapool during their travels - ha, here's a somewhat noisy-take - in fact the wind noise was so bad, I had to re-record my piece later at home and over-dub it - so - it is out of synch... LOLOL - 

Ohhh - Gary - I remembered - it's gwscheerof course - @gwscheer  - cool - 

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@BillyG That is very cool that a forum member met you over there in Scotland. If I ever traveled over the ocean, I think Scotland is one place of two places I would consider going.

Nice violin playing. Thanks for sharing that wonderful video. 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Indeed @cid, and, for any active forum member and family, like yourself or others on the forum - I'll happily travel across Scotland or the entire UK to meet up with you/others that manage across the pond, and share a couple of hours at lunch/dinner/some playing whatever with you all  !!!!  That's for sure - LOL - it's always a pleasure, and is what we do !  

In the past, on several occasions I had the opportunity to visit the USA (Downingtown/Philadelphia, Santa-Barbara, Redmond and a couple of other places).  Most of my time was taken up with work, but I usually managed to extend my time there by a week or two at my own expense, jut to get "out there" and meet folks "as they are" and not the "corporate suits" ..    I know, especially in inner-cities - as a visitor - situations may not be what some folks expect - - but it is the same here in the UK - and even there, as in the UK, it was all good.   No problems, loved my time there, and still in touch with some folks from well over 35 years back !!!

Let us know if you are ever hopping on that jet-plane - good grief - just HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS THIS DONE -

[ Hmmm, sorry about that one....  it just came to mind and was the first I found....  never liked his vocals... There are probably better (to my ear) covers out there ]

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@cid omg b-slap  DUCKING..slithering back under my rock..  roflol

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LOVE IT ty @cid -

Now fess up, you knew this was coming when you posted that comedy skitch. I was more than happy to oblige. 

cheers That is not beer! I detest beer. That is diet soda. 

That is PRECISELY why we can have so much fun, laughter and enjoyment here on this forum...  

NICE RIPOSTE CID !!!!  Well done !!! 

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@BillyG said, 

That is PRECISELY why we can have so much fun, laughter and enjoyment here on this forum...  

exactly

NICE RIPOSTE CID !!!!  Well done !!! 

Thank you! Did Debbie get her text? LOL

@GregW  This a great thread, as we await @Pete_Violin’s first orchestra participation updates. See what you started, Pete?

This is a hoot! I apologize in advance if I ever go too far, it is all in jest. Not a sexist bone in my body. After growing up with six brothers and only two sisters, I am making up for list time. LOL

This is the most helpful and educational forum, with a great amount of fun and comradery I have ever joined. Sometimes, I log in just for the good ol’ fun. It is great to have found this forum.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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cid said
@BillyG said, 

That is PRECISELY why we can have so much fun, laughter and enjoyment here on this forum...  

exactly

NICE RIPOSTE CID !!!!  Well done !!! 

Thank you! Did Debbie get her text? LOL

@GregW  This a great thread, as we await @Pete_Violin’s first orchestra participation updates. See what you started, Pete?

This is a hoot! I apologize in advance if I ever go too far, it is all in jest. Not a sexist bone in my body. After growing up with six brothers and only two sisters, I am making up for list time. LOL

This is the most helpful and educational forum, with a great amount of fun and comradery I have ever joined. Sometimes, I log in just for the good ol’ fun. It is great to have found this forum.

  

Nothing to apologize for..I get it 🙂  hilarioussmile

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They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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cid said .......

Thank you! Did Debbie get her text? LOL

Nah... I disconnected the internet router....  I was scared...   LOL

......

This is the most helpful and educational forum, with a great amount of fun and comradery I have ever joined. Sometimes, I log in just for the good ol’ fun. It is great to have found this forum.

 Well - there you go my friend @cid - precisely.... and as Greg said - nothing at all to apologize for - hilarious !!!

  Been on other forums and FaceBook groups where - well - yes some are fine - less said the better about some of the others.....   Here, we share our thoughts and ideas (be they right or wrong, and often posted as a question, we're simply seeking enlightenment).  In some other places/forums - you may ask, as I have, what seems a question about a complicated/involved issue and you get shot-down for being a fool with a half-dozen-word off-the-cuff-with-no-thought-applied reply.... 

There was a term we used a couple of years back which I haven't heard used here in a while - we're all a part of the wider "FiddlerMan Family" - and we all grow and progress at different rates and sometimes there are simple misunderstandings of course - but that's usually just due to the nature of communicating in text-mode which lacks all the subtle cues that come from audible and visual contact with an actual person.

So, the more we engage on the forum, the better we understand each other and - as you say - 

This is the most helpful and educational forum, with a great amount of fun and camaraderie I have ever joined. Sometimes, I log in just for the good ol’ fun. It is great to have found this forum.

100%+ on that !

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Gordon can you post a pic? I'll be looking for the Alf with the violin....seriously congrats! 

Girlfriends, possible wives. Goes a lot further than the old adage measure twice cut once. We ain't pickin' out no car here . She has to say yes too. It sort of like getting the codes to launch a nuke.......Once you go past a certain point. surprisedsurprisedsurprisedsurprised

All I'll say is enjoy your singleness.

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Did I miss something? Did Alf (Gordon) propose to his girlfriend? I hope SHE thinks about her singleness.

Her: Extra laundry, extra cleaning, extra cooking. 

Him: A.laundry lady, a housekeeper, and a chef.

Aren’t you glad you mentioned you have a girlfriend? I know we are.

 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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On the other hand, if Gordon's girlfriend joins the forum, it means she's at least thinking about taking up a string instrument too, right? Which is a good situation to be in.

I'm going to guess that the Sibelius piece is his Andante Festivo. It's a community orchestra staple, and a lovely piece.

Speaking of orchestras, I have a concert tomorrow (Saturday) night myself. 18 years and more than 120 concerts into playing in orchestras, it still doesn't get old. This one will be fun -- the symphony on the program is probably my favorite symphony of all, Borodin's 2nd.

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Nice one @AndrewH - enjoy your concert !

Speaking of orchestras, I have a concert tomorrow (Saturday) night myself. 18 years and more than 120 concerts into playing in orchestras, it still doesn't get old. This one will be fun -- the symphony on the program is probably my favorite symphony of all, Borodin's 2nd.

My highlight in red above - absolutely, congrats on keeping going where many others would give up!   That's the result of a lot of hard work, dedication, and the sheer pleasure of doing it !  More power to your elbow as they say !

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Have fun with your concert @Gordon Shumway 

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