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Violin for a 5 yr old - to buy or to rent?
Help me decide if I should buy or rent a violin for my 5 year old kiddo.
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crinklynose

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February 25, 2014 - 1:01 pm
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Hi. My daughter (she just turned 5 a couple of days ago) started playing the violin about 10 months ago. We are currently renting her violin (1/8). We are ok renting her violin but I am thinking if I get her a better violin (i.e. better sounding) she could be encouraged playing and practicing more with a beautiful sounding violin.

She is into Suzuki book 1 (still learning Song of the Wind). But she gets frustrated easily when her bow touches D string when she's not supposed to. I am not sure if that's because she's still developing her bow control or her violin is too small or whatever reason I can think of. She gets frustrated and I get frustrated because I don't know how to help her (I don't play the violin but I am learning so I can help her)

Anyways, I would like to ask your opinion if I should buy her a decent violin or should I wait until she gets bigger because she's going to outgrow her violin anyways.

Thanks for your feedback.

 

 

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February 25, 2014 - 1:09 pm
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Ooops, I think I posted this in the wrong topic. Sorry.

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February 25, 2014 - 5:49 pm
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Hi Crinkly,

I bought my 5yr old daughter a Cecilio 200 1/8 size instead of renting for one reason because it was cheaper over the course of a year and also to even see if she had an desire to play the thing.

That being said, your "rental" might actually be good quality (better than Cecilio at least.) I, being brand new, as well to the violin at 39 hit all sorts of strings I'm not supposed to on my more expensive Kohr 565 from the fiddlershop so I don't think that is as much of the violin as it is just learning.

 

I would hold out for another year. When she gets 6, she might be ready for the 1/4 size and you can get the fiddlerman apprentice or concert violin and you'll know it'll be good.

 

Hope this helps,

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Hi, Crinklynose, I started out renting one for my daughter for a couple of months. She broke one of the pegs, the rental shop sent it in for repair and didn't have her size for her.  At that point I thought she would stay with it and like Poke said, it was cheaper over the course of one or two years so I bought a Cecilio cvn 500 for her. I personally never like to rent anything, because you pay the $ and at the end you don't get any thing. Like poke said, your rental probably sound better than Cecilio.

When my daughter started to play violin, most people suggested us to rent one for her because "children grow out of their violins fast." After two years, I have learned that children stay with their violin (if you child grow about four inches a year) for one to two years or longer(if your child grow about two inches a year), depends on how fast your child grow and how long their arms are. Say if your child used a violin for two years and you pay $20 rent per month, you end up paying $480. With that price you could get a pretty decent violin and in the end you could sell that violin or trade in that violin (the better violin you buy the higher the resell/trade in value).

For your daughter, I don't know if she is growing out her 1/8 yet, if she is growing out of it soon, and if you still prefer to buy one for her I would say buy a 1/4 size when she needs a bigger size. Like poke suggested, you could have the FM pick one for you.

The bigger the violin, the better/bigger it would sound, not that it would sound like a full size violin, but it would sound bigger. As she improves, she would play better and it would sound better as well.

Yes,  the distance between strings for 1/8 is much closer than distance on bigger violin. However, I kept touching wrong strings still - my muscle memory is not that good. I would say as she practices, she will figure out how to control her arm so her bow would not touch the wrong string.

 

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February 27, 2014 - 12:46 pm
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Thank you so much Poke and pky. Appreciate your feedback.

We might have to wait for another year when she's ready for a 1/4 :) I just got her a new bow from fiddlerman shop so maybe that would give her some more motivation to keep practicing :)

In the meantime, I myself is learning to play the violin (so I can help my daughter, plus I'm really enjoying playing it) so maybe I should get myself one of the fiddlerman approved ones :)

Thanks again for the advice.

 

 

 

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Always a great idea to learn along with your young ones. :-)

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Hitting the wrong strings when we are bowing happens all the time when we are beginning. I've been playing for many years and I still do it now and then.  It just comes with practice and working on bowing technique. As far as renting or buying I would say continue to rent and then maybe consider buying her a 1/4 size as she gets bigger and if she decides to stick with it.  If you have a violin shop nearby take her there and let her try different violins, different sizes, etc. and see whet she feels comfortable with. You have to remember that as she grows she will need larger size violins. 1/2 size, 3/4 size and eventually full size. Sometimes renting is a great way to go during the early years.

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