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Will a shirt pocket note taker work with a violin?
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August 17, 2014 - 5:46 pm
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Not really a great idea but maybe for learning (I sound like that?) purposes.

Now, this recoding is special.  I just recorded the entire room.  No mixers or other hassles.  The computer plays the backup but there are not wires all over the place to trip on.  There's more!

I am playing melody in the group and the violin is not very audible.  It's a viola strung as violin.  It is not very audible but I love the "dark" presence and it fits just right. (ergonometrically)

Finally, my computer also displays the written music so I just play off the screen.  The problem is that the dumb program turns the page sometimes at a critical point and I'm momentarily lost.  (I shudda had a teacher!)


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August 17, 2014 - 9:17 pm
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@Oliver:  sounds real nice to me, sir.

Good job.



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August 18, 2014 - 3:22 am
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I like the idea @Oliver - had never thought of that!  Out of interest - your "shirt pocket note taker" - I'm kind of curious about that - I have an "old tech" one (tape cassette based - which of course then would have to be coupled up to the PC and re-recorded, hiss and all).  I take it your recorder directly creates some kind of digital audio (.wav or .mp3 etc etc) which you can then just upload over USB?

BTW - sounding good there!


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August 18, 2014 - 7:49 am
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Pocket recorders, whether the new fancy ones that can do a nice stereo recording or the old tape ones, are great. 

Sure, maybe not "studio quality" sound, but as devices to catch a quick "snapshot" of an idea or moment, or as a learning tool?  They are great.

This recording?  Well, maybe not perfect sound quality. It has a certain charming ambiance, though.  Not so bad that it wasn't enjoyable to listen to.  I liked it, personally.  Nice playing, Oliver.


@BillyG: I used one of the little "microcassette" pocket recorders for years, for catching musical (or other) ideas quickly.  Little noisy, not great fidelity, but good enough to get a song idea down.

A few years ago, I upgraded to one of these..


Again, not great sound quality and def not great video recording quality.  But I can load it with vids of tutorials I've been working from, backing tracks, etc.  The only thing I consider a shortcoming to it (other than quality) is that it can't record audio alone.  It's record function is low-fi audio and video that is maybe as good as an old webcam.  But as an easy-to-use device that can run for a few hours off a USB charge and can connect to my computer, it has been worth far more than the about $25 I paid for it a few years back.  Also no tapes to buy or fumble around with. 

Before somebody says it, yeah.. I am aware that some people's cell phones can do all that now.  I am still a cell-phone "luddite" though, and avoid the pesky things.  LOL


But there certainly is a place for devices that are easy to use for making a quick impromptu recording anywhere, any time.  Sometimes by the time you get "better" gear set up and cable run and etc, you've lost the idea you had or really don't feel like recording any more.  You can always do it better later, if you want. 

Getting it down now with even a small pocket recorder avoids the problem of an idea being "lost in time.. like tears in the rain.."

And for just a quick "take" for your own learning purposes, audio and/or video that you can make easy and on the spot is a great tool.  You can get more of an idea of how well a piece/song is coming along, and maybe even some idea of if your delivery is developing well. 

Anyway, great stuff, Oliver!


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August 18, 2014 - 8:52 am
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for the record      recorder here is    Olympus  vn 8100 pc     USB   MP3

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August 12, 2015 - 12:24 am
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Oliver said
for the record      recorder here is    Olympus  vn 8100 pc     USB   MP3

I enjoyed the tune your playing. I am also just starting out and wanting to use a recording device. I have digital cameras and my phone which I seldom use as a phone mostly as mp3 player.

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