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I thought I'd start a new thread, as I've decided no to a camera.
The choice was either a Zoom, but my little H1n is a bit of an overpriced plastic toy, and I don't want to buy anything more expensive from the company; or, following the What Camera Does Fiddlerman Use? thread, I did want to go for such a camera, but that model in the USA takes external mics; the same model in the UK doesn't! So I thought to myself, screw it.
So I wondered what the next best thing was for recording the violin - sound and vision. I suppose the choice is smartphone or tablet? Which has the better mic? I suspect tablets, but how do the models vary?
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@Gordon Shumway -
Last year, when it was time for me to quit screwing around with dinosaur cell phones, I was pondering the same question. I wanted to make sure I could be happy for a few years without feeling the need to upgrade.
I went with kind of something between a tablet and smartphone.
Decided to purchase a Samsung Galaxy Note 10+. One of the most impressive features was probably the marvelous cameras and recording capability... besides more of everything else!
I still haven't learned everything this smartphone/notebook is capable of, but what I have learned so far makes me VERY happy! I've been so pleased with my Note 10+ I haven't even given a 2nd thought to looking at a newer model.
The price has dropped since I bought mine - I had even found a great deal on eBay, so you might be pleasantly surprised, too.
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I use either my iPhone 11 or my iPad Pro 2nd Gen. Quite honestly, the 6Plus sounded great, too.
I think the sound I get back from a recording with these devices are accurate. I set up my device on its special stand and no problem.
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If youre not happy with the zoom products the phone will be the next best from what Ive used. you can always utilize your shure microphones and capture the audio and sync the video from a camcorder or camera. I think thats a pain. Id rather use my phone or my zoom camera.
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I have a refurbished Ipad, 9.7inch, 32GB (2017 model, 3rd generation) that works really well. I liked it so much that I recently got a 2nd one (refurbished also). Both video & audio are very good.
I’ve recorded on it, & transferred these recorded files to my desktop Windows computer wirelessly via an app called FE File Explorer—works really easily. Then I can convert file to whatever (e.g., from a .mov to mp4 for Fiddlerman projects).
I also use this app along with the Musescore app on my Ipad. I access Musescore files I’ve created on my desktop to play them back on the ipad to practice along with (using a Bluetooth speaker).
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I'm sure everyone knows by now that I'm not a "techie", never took a class on how to use a computer.
I know why many people prefer iOS over Android, but think the lines are blurring here, now.
I forgot to mention, besides being the most for the least amount of money (at the time), I went for most "user friendly" (many other pluses, too) - was nice to find options for video (even in dim light) & options to direct the microphone for recording - maybe 2 taps later I had my recording sent off for the GOT Project - in the right format with accurate sound and lighting!
For anyone following that doesn't know what to look for in a smartphone - probably no one (lol), here's a link to help.
https://smartphones.gadgethack.....e-0171678/
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theres always something like this if you have an apple device. that way you could use your shure mics. i dont have any tascam products..i was looking for some kind of xlr to mini type converter...found this instead. tascam ixz for ios $59.00 read the fine print...may need some software or sdcard or something not included...just an fyi of type of stuff out there
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Gordon Shumway said
I thought I'd start a new thread, as I've decided no to a camera.The choice was either a Zoom, but my little H1n is a bit of an overpriced plastic toy, and I don't want to buy anything more expensive from the company; or, following the What Camera Does Fiddlerman Use? thread, I did want to go for such a camera, but that model in the USA takes external mics; the same model in the UK doesn't! So I thought to myself, screw it.
So I wondered what the next best thing was for recording the violin - sound and vision. I suppose the choice is smartphone or tablet? Which has the better mic? I suspect tablets, but how do the models vary?
I use my i pad, so you have probably seen the quality, or lack of, with that. Its only the 300 quid version , it works but isn't a patch on a cam with a dedicated mic, in my opinion. One thing for sure if you get too close to it you will hear every scratch.
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I use my i pad, so you have probably seen the quality, or lack of, with that. Its only the 300 quid version , it works but isn't a patch on a cam with a dedicated mic, in my opinion. One thing for sure if you get too close to it you will hear every scratch.
The quality is good enough for me, Stringy. (but why are the older generations more expensive than the newer generations - do they have antique value?
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I'd forgotten I had decided against a camera 2 years ago. I decided against it again this week. At least I'm consistent, lol!
I'm just bumping this thread, as I don't know what devices are available or what Android means, even - I still use a Razr V3. Emily's Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ seems to be obsolete now - I don't really fancy spending much money on something that's refurbished.
So I've typed Samsung tablet into Amazon's search box and saved a link to the results and I'll try to find out what they all mean. Samsung's website may offer explanations. (I'm hoping there's phone, tablet (big phone/small laptop) and laptop*. If that's the case, there's a chance I'll be able to understand it)
Money is a bloody great big object.
* I guessed right - phone, tablet and book - tablet being half a book. Woohoo, I'm whizzing into the future!
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They are expensive no doubt about it.
I am using a Samsung one now for everything, volume is a lot higher than the I pad, and it also picks up every scratch and squeak, very easy to use though, obviously an external mic can be connected if need be as well.
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They are expensive no doubt about it.I am using a Samsung one now for everything, volume is a lot higher than the I pad, and it also picks up every scratch and squeak, very easy to use though, obviously an external mic can be connected if need be as well.
Which Samsung have you got?
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@Gordon Shumway -
You just helped me more than you'll ever know!
I was searching for info, prompted by your reply - in the process I discovered my Samsung Galaxy S10 Note Plus not only does fabulous video recording from the front and back, but will also capture video playing on my phone - not just still screen shots!
So, thank you!
Apple (iOS) & Android are just 2 different operating systems - now, that's as much tech as you get from me. 🤣 I've never used Apple products - so can't comment on iPhones or tablets.
For Android, I can tell you my Samsung S10 Note Plus phone is NOT obsolete - just upgraded Kevin's phone to one, because it's still a great phone/computer, has a huge amount of storage and EXCELLENT camera/video capability!
512GB of storage was an option I wanted - bought both of ours from ebay (unlocked), so we wouldn't be obligated to a service (but if you by a phone, make sure it's compatible with the service you plan to use). I've had mine 3 years - never a problem.
It is a large phone with a stylus, but not a tablet. I'd rather use my laptop, with larger screen instead of a tablet, for most things - I can transfer stuff from my phone
It's easy to upload videos from the phone directly to YouTube.
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the s5e, its a good tablet, great screen, very slim, not sure how much they are now, probably around 250/300 I would imagine. like I said very simple to use, you just press the camera icon, choose video, there is a screen rotate button, you press that and it changes the camera to look at you, like a selfie thing then press record. And bobs your uncle, instant paganinni.
Uploading to you tube is also very simple. If thats your thing that is.
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