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I remembered years back, how Fiddlerman made a video about "$100 violin test", and it was a Cecilio violin, the one that was painted all black.
Then recently, when I saw that same video, it had a "No longer recommended" added to the title.
I have never been a fan of Cecilio products (due to the experience I had buying a different instrument from them), and now I'm wondering what made Fiddlerman/Fiddlershop stop selling them. I don't write this thread to be offensive, or bash fiddlershop/fiddlerman in any way shape or form.
I'm just curious, and also need more perspectives I can dissuade other people from buying those products in the future.
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This was brought up in another thread--Fiddlerman indicated that there was a problem with quality consistency.
Here's the thread: https://fiddlerman.com/forum/r.....2/#p112575
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I'm sorry to see this and can only say that I bought the CV400 and have been very pleased with it. It's better than I am!
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The fact that I no longer recommend them doesn't mean that they are all bad. We had to deal with a lot of complaints and repairs for a while and some of the instruments that I saw were terrible. I just can't recommend instruments that are so poorly set up and very inconsistent. @JohnG - I'm sure yours is fine. 😁
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My suspicion, from experience with cheap uke makers, is that when some products become popular because they were originally good, the owners start to farm out the production process to multiple factories in the Far East without sufficient product specification or control. You might get a freakily good one (maybe an old, original one), but then others from a different factory will be like completely different instruments.
There are complaints elsewhere that even world famous workshop $3k violins can be random and if you fail to buy a selected one from a luthier who has set it up, then you risk getting junk for your 20% discount.
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There are complaints elsewhere that even world famous workshop $3k violins can be random and if you fail to buy a selected one from a luthier who has set it up, then you risk getting junk for your 20% discount.
That's not what people said in the discussion you're referencing. If you buy from somewhere like another company, it's not just random -- it's almost a sort of negative quality control, because another company is where they sell the instruments that shops rejected.
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You are missing the point, Andrew. My paraphrase contains neither faulty logic nor misinformation, and I was being careful not to drop any name and thus be accused of libel.
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I agree with you Gordon. This is most certainly what happened with Cecilio. We've experienced this many times before with workshops that we dealt with as well. Lost a lot of money on products that were not even close to what we ordered. Though we don't sell those products, rather send them back or fix them which costs both in headaches and money. When we find a workshop that maintains quality we hold on.... Presently we have 4 workshops that make exclusively for us.
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